Copryright goes to Foundation - Whst does this now mean for the future?

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Copryright goes to Foundation - Whst does this now mean for the future?

Post by mamboart » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:52 pm

http://news.mamboserver.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=44

It seems as if Miro is now transvering the rigths of Mambo to the Foundation. they want to recruiting members of the community to fill in as Developers.

What does this mean now. Will there be now two Mambos - It is getting difficult I fear! ???
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Post by joomlahut » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:07 pm

That's doesn't mean anything!
The foundation is headed by Miro Employees so it's still in Miro's hands. The copyright just got a name change from Miro International, Inc to Miro foundation, Inc  ;)
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Re: Copryright goes to Foundation - Whst does this now mean for the future?

Post by mamboart » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:17 pm

Just sad to see, that some of the old community are using this chance to take place of the Dev-Team. and so a splitt will be. It would have been better to stay together, so now I fear, a ugly race will run. But maybe this is cood for the improvement of the CMS - Every party want to present the best. Intresting times ahead. I only which that the new baby will  have a Name soon.
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Post by joomlahut » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:45 pm

Last time i checked everyone on the core team was on the list.
Did anyone from the core team stay behind?  ???
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Re: Copryright goes to Foundation - Whst does this now mean for the future?

Post by benwk » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:05 pm

I don't want to double post. Please look at my entry on this thread: http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... ml#msg8300


Could this be the fate of MF Mambo?

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Post by Deffexor » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:36 pm

There's no such thing as "required trademark display" unless you're doing something like licensing according to a proprietary, non-open license. The reality is that the GPL allows us to fork the code and do whatever we want with it (well, anything except relicense it since none of us have full copyright control...) In fact, we would be wise to do the exact oppposite which is remove all visible trademarks of Miro. (Lest OSM be sued for using a Trademark we don't own...) The only thing we might have to keep is the notice that Miro has original copyright on some of the code.

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Re: Copryright goes to Foundation - Whst does this now mean for the future?

Post by benwk » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:09 pm

Perhaps my question wasn't clear. I'm aware that neither Miro, nor the MF can do anything to the existing source code or the OSM fork. What I would like to know is if it is possible for them alter the GPL in the MF Mambo CMS to require their trademark display on a public part of the CMS.

And yes, requiring the display of a trademark is possible, as is the restriction of trademark usage.

Please read the following:

Source: http://www.sugarcrm.com/crm/open-source ... cense.html
SugarCRM Public License 1.1.3 - Exihibit B

Additional Terms applicable to the SugarCRM Public License.

I. Effect.
These additional terms described in this SugarCRM Public License – Additional Terms shall apply to the Covered Code under this License.

II. SugarCRM and logo.
This License does not grant any rights to use the trademarks "SugarCRM" and the "SugarCRM" logos even if such marks are included in the Original Code or Modifications.

However, in addition to the other notice obligations, all copies of the Covered Code in Executable and Source Code form distributed must, as a form of attribution of the original author, include on each user interface screen (i) the "Powered by SugarCRM" logo and (ii) the copyright notice in the same form as the latest version of the Covered Code distributed by SugarCRM, Inc. at the time of distribution of such copy. In addition, the "Powered by SugarCRM" logo must be visible to all users and be located at the very bottom center of each user interface screen. Notwithstanding the above, the dimensions of the "Powered By SugarCRM" logo must be at least 106 x 23 pixels. When users click on the "Powered by SugarCRM" logo it must direct them back to http://www.sugarforge.org. In addition, the copyright notice must remain visible to all users at all times at the bottom of the user interface screen. When users click on the copyright notice, it must direct them back to http://www.sugarcrm.com

Or is this license not an 'open' license, in your opinion?


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