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J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by dyfrig » Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:10 pm

I'm testing the released Welsh language packs for J3.10 and J4. I have a test 3.10 site with Welsh and French packs installed. Both are on versions 3.10.0.1. When I run the pre-update checker Welsh is shown as "Update Information Unavailable" whilst French is shown as "No Update Required".
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Can anyone explain this?
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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Bakual » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:51 pm

Looks fine when I try it on my site.
My guess would be that it is a cache issue of some sort. Maybe try to "Clear Cache" in the Extension: Update view and then search for updates. I think the Pre-Update check uses the same information.

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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by dyfrig » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:01 am

Sorry for long delay in replying. I was on holiday and forgot that I still had this issue to resolve. I've tried clearing the cache in Extension: Update view as you suggest but I still have the issue.

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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Jaydot » Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:56 am

Here is a quote from https://docs.joomla.org/Pre-Update_Check:
The language packs are not yet ready for Joomla 4 (as of September 2020). Over time, they will be. If your site depends on other language packs, wait to migrate until all the language packs are ready.
The Dutch language pack also shows up under "update information unavailable", so I assume I just need to be patient :).
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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by dyfrig » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:25 pm

Since that is dated September 2020 before the download pages for Joomla 4 language packs were ready I'm not sure whether that's relevant. If that were the case then wouldn't the French pack also show up as "update information unavailable" Also why does Bakual not see the same?

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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Jaydot » Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:34 pm

I expect because some language-pack-editors are faster than others?
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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Bakual » Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:43 pm

I've asked Tobias who knows the pre-upgrade checker better than anyone else. Maybe he has an idea.

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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Bakual » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:09 pm

Looks like I did the test wrong (with wrong target).
I can reproduce it now.

The issue comes from the fact that the downloadserver changes between the packets for J3 and J4. So the J3 language package doesn't see the J4 ones.
German and French work because they have been used for testing purpose during the development of J4.

So I take this to the maintainers to see what we can do about it. I doubt it's something you can do on your end.

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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by Jaydot » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:14 pm

Thank you!
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Re: J4 compatibility of language packs

Post by dyfrig » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:27 pm

Thank you


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