[1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

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[1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

Post by ibnhafsun » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:48 pm

It would be nice to have one more step on the installation process to select the language pack you wish to use on your site if you are not going to use the default en-GB.

Or may be a quick step by step configuration process once you have Joomla! installed to configure basic options (including the language packs).

I guess this won´t be so hard to accomplish: we have accredited translations and we will have Offcial Translations and the new installer seems to be capable to install from any url, so if we have a list of help servers we can have a list of downloadable language packs urls to choose. But I am not a coder (that´s the reason to "guess", lol) and may be someone with more knowledge than me could enlighten us.

I saw a thread about installing some extensions in the default Joomla! installation process (ie: a shopping cart or the extensions needed to run a school website) and we have now the possibility to select the sql file. As language packs are intended to be an extension I think these extensions should be on your top list if you want the non english speaking users to use your app.
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Re: [1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

Post by infograf768 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:37 pm

As far as I remember, this was not forecasted for 1.1 (and 1.5).

It does not mean that packages are limited to one language.
The packager may include in the package whatever they want under their responsibility.
A simple xml file in the installation folder lets the packager decide which language will be used for installation and which help site per default will be used in the parameters.
He may also include as many languags as desired for a future switch or use of Joomfish.
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Re: [1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

Post by ibnhafsun » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:11 pm

Now I haven´t got it, sorry  ???

Did you mean that I am able to make my own Joomla! 1.5 package with my native language pack? I already know it and that´s what I am doing right now. But I can use the default English Joomla! installation while some non English-speaking users don´t. The Core Team is doing a great job and in Joomla! 1.5 every user can select the installation language but once Joomla! is installed thee must go to the en-GB administrator and upload and configure the language settings. For a non English-speaking user this would be like reading Hebrew for me.

I was just asking if this could be accomplished in the official Joomla! package by:

a) adding a new installation step
b) making a simple configuration process once Joomla! is installed to avoid the English administration with simple localised strings to keep things lightweight

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don´t know what did you mean with "package" and "packager", my English and my coding skills have similar levels. If not, take this just as a suggestion and do whatever you prefer.
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Re: [1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

Post by infograf768 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:43 pm

A package is a zip file ready to install. I think you know that pretty well.
There are "Language packages" and full "Joomla packages".

These may contain more languages than the default English language.
Spanish for example.

In that case, an xml file in the installation folder tells Joomal! to present Spanish as the default language for Installation and Admin/site language. Then the user may switch if desired to any of the other languages included in the package or, through a Spanish admin, Install another language.

Packager is anybody who proposes a package. You, I, Translation Partners, Accredited Translation Teams, anybody.

This is an example of a localised package installation xml file (localise.xml) for French:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<localise version="1.5" client="installation" >
    <forceLang>fr-FR</forceLang>
    <helpurl>http://www.joomlafacile.com</helpurl>
    <params/>
</localise>
Packages (whether language purely or full Joomla packages) are proposed on Forge and other places.

At this point in time, Joomla can't fetch a non-package-included language at time of installation. This will be done in a future release, through the web from the Extension site. This coding is not easy and also requires specific servers to handle.
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Re: [1.5 Installation] Language Pack install step

Post by ibnhafsun » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:13 pm

At this point in time, Joomla can't fetch a non-package-included language at time of installation. This will be done in a future release, through the web from the Extension site. This coding is not easy and also requires specific servers to handle.
That´s what I want to know. Now I understand your words (I was not playing with your words, really, I didn´t know if you were talking about a packager library or something like that and that was my problem to understand you).

Thanks, Jean-Marie. Hopefuly this will be available in future versions.
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