J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

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J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by LabanSeigmann » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:33 am

Suddenly, I am no longer able to upload images in Mediamanager (or JCE texteditor). I am using the Flash uploader, and when I click on "Browse" button, nothing happends.

I am using Joomla 1.5.7
Apache: 2.2.0
PHP: 5.1.2
MySQL: 5.0.18

If I switch back to HTML uploader, it works fine. But I want to use Flash uploader

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I installed the latest Adobe CS4 package, and it seems that the Flash 10 player does not work well with upload function in Joomla. Tested with another machine with an older Flash player, worked fine.

So, this must be a bug!
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by ircmaxell » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:12 pm

Maybe try filing the bug with flash? If it works on 9 but not 10, maybe they broke something by accident? It could be our issue, but I'd check with them first.
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by Sadeness » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:13 pm

Same problem here. Until yesterday it was ok. Today a popup of adobe said to update flash of firefox to v10. Now the flash loader in joomla doesn't work anymore :(

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by kenseito » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:06 pm

I am having the same problem here too..
Is there anyway to turn off the flash uploader in the meantime?

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by ircmaxell » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:16 pm

kenseito wrote:I am having the same problem here too..
Is there anyway to turn off the flash uploader in the meantime?
It's an option in global configuration...
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by LabanSeigmann » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:32 am

Anyone who can confirm this bug? Is it a critical bug, and when do we expect an fix?

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by ircmaxell » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:13 pm

LabanSeigmann wrote:Anyone who can confirm this bug? Is it a critical bug, and when do we expect an fix?
Did you even read my reply above?
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by LabanSeigmann » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:38 pm

I am not a Joomla core developer.
I have no idea how the uploader function in Joomla works.
I wasn't aware that this was a Flash uploader until I've read it somewhere on this forum.

I only posted this, because the Joomla uploader no longer works. It would be wrong to involve Adobe to investigate why something in Joomla no longer works.

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by mcsmom » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:37 pm

If Adobe did something in Flash 10 that made it not work with fancyuploader, then I don't see how that is Joomla's fault.

http://digitarald.de/journal/54706744/f ... -flash-10/
http://www.colettas.org/?p=252

Flash 10 breaks all flash based upload solutions, something I learned easily via Google.

The first link includes advice about how to fix. I'm sure that the fixed libraries will be included in 1.6 assuming they don't break anything.
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by LabanSeigmann » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:12 pm

The development team decided to use the fancyuploader based on Flash, then the development team is responsible to fix it. It make no sense

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by ianmac » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:16 pm

LabanSeigmann wrote:The development team decided to use the fancyuploader based on Flash, then the development team is responsible to fix it. It make no sense
Thanks for the report. We'll get this fixed for 1.6.

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by LabanSeigmann » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:39 pm

That's cool. When will 1.6 be released? Will there be any fix?

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by ianmac » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:05 pm

LabanSeigmann wrote:That's cool. When will 1.6 be released? Will there be any fix?
1.6 should be released sometime in 2009.

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported

Post by LabanSeigmann » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:36 am

1.6 should be released sometime in 2009.
But what a about all the users who doesn't know how to disable the fancyuploader, because it is set on by default. I feel this is a bug that should be fixed ASAP, because this is one of the nice feature in Joomla 1.5.

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by infograf768 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:02 am

Looks like fancyuploader is getting updated to deal with Flash 10.
http://digitarald.de/journal/54706744/f ... -flash-10/
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by mcsmom » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:50 pm

Yes, that is one of the links I posted above.

@Laban, I think at a certain point people have to take ownership of their sites. If you are considering upgrading your flash or other software do some due diligence to determine if it will break anything.

All in all Adobe's willingness to break tons of sites seems a good reason not to use flash in 1.6 if possible.
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by finnpetersen » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:42 pm

Thanks for the report. We'll get this fixed for 1.6.

Ian
Thanks for your positive answer Ian...

I had same problem in mediamanager after upgrading flash to v.10 with joomla 1.5.7. Nothing happened when upload button pressed.

Today I downloaded flash-uninstaller and flash 9.
Then I uninstalled and installed flash 9.
Everything works fine in Mediamanager again!

Here are links to adobe:
Uninstaller:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
Flash 9:
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplaye ... s.html#fp9

(fyi: I'm on a Mac - adobe links shows other systems too )

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by infograf768 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:53 pm

We still have an issue there though as quite a few users are getting their flash plugins updated automatically without their consent or knowledge.
I have quite afew reports on this.

I am not sure waiting for 1.6 is a solution here.

An alternative in 1.5.8 could be to choose non-flash as default and change the overlib to explain this known issue.

What do you think?
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by LabanSeigmann » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:24 pm

I would also like to see a J1.5.8 release with either a bugfix or what infograf768 writes. But since already some else has a fix for this bug, then it could be an easy way to fix this bug.

Why not assign this bug to the developer(s) who implemented fancyuploader in Joomla 1.5?

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Post by mcsmom » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:45 pm

You know the drill.
Try it yourself, report back whether it works or not and what environments you tested.
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Post by infograf768 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:02 pm

Hmmm, don't know to whom you are replying.
Shall I post an artifact and patch to change the default to NO for flash uploader and some change in the overlib to state the issue or would I waist my time?
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Post by mcsmom » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:08 pm

I don't know if it's a waste of time until I know if it works or not.
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Post by infograf768 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:28 pm

Hmm.. Elin, you know pretty well that changing

<param name="enable_flash" type="radio" default="1" label="ENABLE FLASH UPLOADER" description="ENABLE FLASH UPLOADER DESC">
<option value="0">NO</option>
<option value="1">YES</option>

to default="0 "

and the ini string to include a description of the issue is not a big deal and the patch is quite easy and will work. Even I can do it...

ENABLE FLASH UPLOADER DESC=Select whether the Flash Uploader should be used or not for uploading media in the Media Manager. Default to "No" to avoid issues with users who have installed the Flash version 10 recently released by Macromedia.

So, I will make my question clearer ( thought it was though...):
Do you guys intend to make the patch and commit it or shall I with a chance of committing?

I feel enough concerned that I would but not if I get that type of reply.
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by mcsmom » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:34 pm

The big thing is to make sure that it works with the older versions of flash that are still out there and also to check different browsers/versions.
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Post by infograf768 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:23 pm

Artifact and patch to change default config for 1.5.8 posted.
http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... m_id=13373
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by LabanSeigmann » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:19 am

Ryan Demmer at joomlacontenteditor.com will fix this issue in next version of JCE Image Manager. Hopefully a new version will be out within' a week or two.

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Post by ircmaxell » Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:42 pm

LabanSeigmann wrote:Ryan Demmer at joomlacontenteditor.com will fix this issue in next version of JCE Image Manager. Hopefully a new version will be out within' a week or two.
I wonder how he fixes it, because I have not seen a single fix yet that doesn't break other things...
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by leolam » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:05 am

Ryan did not say he will fix it. he wrote here in a comment:
I am attempting to fix this for JCE too, using the swf from FancyUpload2 but rebuilding some of the accompanying javascript to work with Mootools 1.1
I'll post it to the forge if I can get it right.
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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by leolam » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:35 am

Till the issue is resolved in a future release than make your choice to roll back to either Flash 9 or better (Flash 9 has some serious security issues as well) disable the flash-uploader in the Joomla configuration (disables Flash upload in media manager) and disable (if you use it) in JCE-configuration and set to HTML-upload

If you want to roll back to Flash 9 you need to uninstall Flashplayer and you need to do this with the Flash uninstaller as provided here If you do not use that you have a lot of remainders left (source: Michael Horowitz on Cnet)

Than you can download the Flash 9 version (42MB) Here and you extract and find the 2 installer files (plugin for firefox and activeX for IE) in the extracted folder
flash_player_update6_flash9\Players\Release
Run them and your flash loaders work again.

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Re: J1.5.7 bug - Flash player 10 not supported (fancyuploader)

Post by fidoboy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:29 pm

There is any hope on having this issue fixed in Joomla 1.5.x?? There is any patch, fix or another kind of temporary solution for this annoying issue?? :(

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