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JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by mattbaylor » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:27 pm

Discuss the blog post JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers here.
http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leade ... sters.html
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by alikon » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:14 am

This is one of the most awaiting news for joomla extensions developers.

so folks now no excuse if you really want to help join for beta testing

http://extensions.joomla.org/index.php? ... icle&id=71
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Vimes » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:34 am

Done.
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Beat » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:49 am

Great news! Done too.
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by sourcecoast » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Very excited to see the new JED. Beta app submitted!
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by coolbung » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:58 am

Can you share some sceenshots ?
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Post by JTema » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:23 pm

I ve joined too :)
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Josh Lewis » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:17 pm

Any news on this?

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by alikon » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:49 pm

the BETA TESTING phase is in progress...

UPDATE 11 Nov 2014
still working out some important issues and need to migrate images across. Current projected date of release: 19 Nov.
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by drobertson123 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:45 am

It is Nov 24th. Any chance you could give us a quick update on the JED release.

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Josh Lewis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:52 am

Agreed. Seems like the new extensions have been locked for a month now because of the new JED. I very much appreciate the efforts being made here, but also want to make sure the JED doesn't feel abandoned. ;)

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Tonyp-xws » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:42 am

Hey Guys,

Any update on JED3? Getting lots of emails of people wanting to post reviews on our extension but they can't and asking us if we know when they can.

Seems a bit strange to disable JED for a whole month?

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Post by alikon » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:43 am

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by rvbgnu » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:29 pm

Hi Nicola and Matthew,

I am willing to help with the JED, not only for the new JED 3, but in the long run.
Please feel free to get back to me!

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Mojsplet » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:43 pm

M i missing something or you just bypass the community to let them (us) propose features and ux?

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by mattbaylor » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Mojsplet wrote:M i missing something or you just bypass the community to let them (us) propose features and ux?
I guess you missed the multiple blog posts, forum posts and calls for feedback spanning a six month period.
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by FlashRebel » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:21 pm

mattbaylor wrote:
Mojsplet wrote:M i missing something or you just bypass the community to let them (us) propose features and ux?
I guess you missed the multiple blog posts, forum posts and calls for feedback spanning a six month period.

Why did he miss it ? Bc. it was messy everywhere and nowhere. In this case he missed nothing, Joomla missed his opinion and help.
Result is, that core Joomla, JED, Forum, Templates ... are in bad shape, outdated, no working at all or working worse than 5 years ago.

Even community not working well. If main contact email for trouble about forums and registration in community forum is no-repl@... something is wrong.

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by mattbaylor » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:34 pm

FlashRebel wrote: If main contact email for trouble about forums and registration in community forum is no-repl@... something is wrong.
Why not volunteer to setup a reply address for everything and answer the emails?
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Radek Suski » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:18 pm

Oh here we go again. Rebel complaining again.
I guess he was one of the first beta tester who joined and helped to test. Right?
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Mojsplet » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:28 pm

Oh here we go again...if you are not with us, you r against us.
Rebels complaints is something to consider at highest level. Maybe hi is doing it on his own way, but in 90% hi is right.

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by Vimes » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:45 pm

Mojsplet wrote:Oh here we go again...if you are not with us, you r against us.
I'm not on anybody's side, but all I see here is people complaining for the sake of complaining.

The Devs been great and if you'd bothered to get involved with the Beta testing I'm sure you would have had a chance to offer your wisdom during the process.
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Post by dhuelsmann » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:51 pm

It's unfortunate that members of the various leadership groups within Joomla continue to fail to realize that listening and reflecting on what those who object to various approaches within Joomla are saying would better serve the project then sarcasm which is just thinly veiled hostility and unacceptable bullying.
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Post by Radek Suski » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:53 pm

Oh, see who joined? Tada
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Post by FlashRebel » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:42 pm

Radek why are you attacking community people with different views/opinion/expression than yours ?
You are horrible example how leaders communicate with community in Joomla. Maybe you have coding skills and you probably did much for Joomla code, but with your style of communicating how you can be in Joomla social media team and Events Team co-leader ?
I don't use only nice words and my posts are critical too, but still not so stupid like yours! You represent official Joomla team.
This is forum, so community can express opinions and though here even if its critical. Why you attack someone just bc. he exists without any reaction to subject what he write about ?
If people like you will stay as leaders in Joomla and will continue to do what they do now, Joomla will change for outdated piece of code for hobbyists.
You as member of 3 teams of Joomla don't care that you are losing community ? or you don't feel it maybe ? Don't see how everything works ?
Even to check my posts in this forum took me about one hour when system was able to handle my request. This is problem! not that me or somebody else write critical post!

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by jeffT » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:56 am

Hi everybody
Now it's been more than a month than the JED is closed (meaning no reviews can be posted or new extensions submitted).
I do understand the complexity of the JED3 project and fully appreciate all the work put in by the developers. But ;) When I read in the last update "We are down to 2 final show-stopping issues (submission process and review calculations) that are currently in-work being resolved", I wonder why the decision was made to close down the current site when these two critical functionality were not implemented or properly working?
If the submission process is broken, why even consider switching systems?
I hope you guys can come to a working solution soon, but if not maybe a rollback to the present system would be a better option than letting everything down.
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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by TheMuffinMan » Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:04 am

Hi,

a number of us-located JED people were working for the new JED yesterday on a public holiday (Thanksgiving). When I was doing beta testing over a span of 6 weeks or so, I saw them working on: public holidays, weekends, late nights, early mornings, etc.
The current JED leadership is also the first in 5-6 years that has the guts to replace the entire working JED with something entirely new.

It's understandable then, when a comment like this pops in....
M i missing something or you just bypass the community to let them (us) propose features and ux?
...you won't feel very good about it being working on the new JED.

On the other hand, the guy who posted this comment had problems to catch up with the JED development over the past months.

Both "sides" are absolutely right:

- If you joined the community like 3 months ago, you really have a hard time to see what is going on. Joomla appears to be a black box that you simply can't join, even if you wanted to.

These people please go to:
http://volunteer.joomla.org

There you can register and contact the groups that match your interests and get things started.

(the volunteer portal is by the way an example of the black-box problem, even I couldn't find a link at joomla.org that points to it, but I guess that's on the plate of the volunteer team already)

- The volunteers at Joomla sometimes appear to me to be seen as "property" of the community that don't behave well and should be put back on the track as often as possible through unqualified comments. The reaction of Joomla team members to this is understandable, they are humans in the first place.

All in all we should work on removing the frontiers, quit thinking in "sides" like community vs. joomla leadership and everybody simply following the code of conduct:
http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/the- ... nduct.html

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by FlashRebel » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:19 pm

TheMuffinMan wrote:
These people please go to:
http://volunteer.joomla.org
How did you find that section ? ;) It is not linked from somewhere, or at least from somewhere where visitor can see it.

Its first time after years that I see web where someone can easily at least contact some ''Joomler'' :) hope it helps, if someone will be able to put link on visible place instead of outdated content from official joomla sites.

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by TheMuffinMan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:16 am

@FlashRebel
The links are coming soon + new jed + volunteer portal + joomla 3.4 +.... you get the point ;)

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by FlashRebel » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:23 am

TheMuffinMan wrote:@FlashRebel
The links are coming soon + new jed + volunteer portal + joomla 3.4 +.... you get the point ;)
oh it looks like Christmas is coming ;) I m waiting for Joomla 3.5 years, hope it will arrive soon.
Btw. Joomla 3.4 ''coming soon'' few months already :D

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Re: JED 3 Nearing Completion: Call for Beta Testers

Post by darb » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:09 am

Maybe it would be good to do a weekly status update regularly so the community know what's going on?

The JED is very important for all Joomlers world wide. Everybody appreciate the hard work done and its difficult to set time delivery dates as always. And If this problem is not solved within a time frame maybe its better to keep the old working JED for a while.

Myself have not read the analysis about w h y the old JED should be changed and what new features/improvement this new JED will bring to the table?

Can anyone update me and post 5-6 arguments etc about the new new features improvements that the new JED will do, it would be appreciated.

rgds

Update 11 Nov 2014

We're stil working out some important issues and need to migrate images across. Current projected date of release: 19 Nov.

Update 24 Nov 2014

Data migration has been completed. We are down to 2 final show-stopping issues (submission process and review calculations) that are currently in-work being resolved. Once those have been fixed and tested we will announce a "pre-access" period for developers to login and update and submit new extensions.


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