Aiming to get back on topic.
As we do so, note: URLs (URIs) are fundamental to websites.
Though over time some posts have indicated SEF URLs are just cosmetic issue, this is not true. You want to create software for building great websites, you should enable users to readily create great URLs.
This thread started with a post from UndoIT, which included:
if readable SEF URLs were a core component, I think a lot more Joomla developers would focus on creating components and modules that are compatible with the SEF function.
The way it is now, you have to choose the SEF component based on the extensions you plan to use, and then hunt down hacked thirdparty sef_ext.php files etc. to make everything work. And even still, there might be a few links lurking somewhere that are broken.
- instead of acknowledgement of this being an issue, had obfuscation that's been typical of Mambo/Joomla discussions re "SEF" URLs.
We've learned Joomla 1.5 can produce more human friendly URLs, but still some ways from being ideal:
- Still no standardisation, so liable to remain problems with third-party components, especially.
- Maybe the ItemIDs problem remains - so can get multiple URLs for same content.
- Seems no acknowledgement of it being important to ensure URLs won't need changing with upgrades etc, so URLs can be "sustainable".
Cool URIs don't change
Yes, of course like others I don't have to use Joomla.
As I recall, Robert Castley of Mambo posted something like this - you don't have to use Mambo - in response to criticism, even though Mambo homepage was puffing the benefits of using Mambo. I thought him petulant in that post. Joomla notes it's "one of the most powerful Open Source Content Management Systems on the planet", but without note re how weak it is when it comes to URLs, for reasons that are hard to fathom.
I started with Mambo/Joomla almost three years ago; switching cms would be quite a faff.
Tried Drupal demo, and was readily able to create URL of sort http://www.mysite/folder/story
[.html]. Not ideal - as an alias - but a cinch.
Came across guff on ModX, which maybe not ready for non-developers, but already bills itself as a true SEO CMS
, including as can generate a selection of URL types.
This seems "cutting edge"; not so Joomla 1.5 and its URLs.