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Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:44 pm
by RedEvo
Hi,

Our new Joomla End Users Guide is ready for download from the downloads area of http://www.scotweb.com. Caron has worked hard on this but as ever feedback and crit welcome.

cheers

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:39 pm
by rg
I just downloaded the guide and scrolled through it.
This looks GREAT!!!

Thanks to all who contributed!

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:47 am
by gsbe
This community will greatly benefit from your many hours of hard work - THANKS! The document really benefits from how clearly you've marked the screenshots. Excellent work.

I hope you don't mind me posting a direct link to the download details page as it was a bit difficult to find at first: Cheers to your team on a great job creating this very helpful document.

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:59 am
by brad
Awesome work! 8)

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:35 am
by ledzep
As usual A+ - Great piece of work.

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:38 pm
by visionspin
Thanks for all of the hard work that I know went into getting this out!

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:30 pm
by Michelle Bisson
scotweb,

Thanks for your contribution!!! 

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:09 pm
by N6REJ
;) Very cool, and TIMELY!... just one TINY request.
Could there be a mod or bot, or something that would automatically diagram a template so that you can better understand what things live where?

Troy

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:16 pm
by kenmcd
Very nice work.
Very helpful for many.

I did go through my copy and remove all the big "Do Not Copy" and "(c) Scotweb.com" backgrounds.
Think this really detracts from the document.
Too much visual noise.
Your branding and copyright are already on every page.
Anyone who wants to rip the document will get it.
Yelling with huge type at all your other honest readers just detracts from the document.

Obviously you do this as promotional material (win-win for all).
You may want to add clickable links to your site.
The logo and the footer copy could be a clickable link to your site.
When I have formatted the links to look like links (blue underline) - the clicks increase.
Make it a unique link and you can track all the traffic from the manual.
Also add a link to your site on the front page.
A big bold blue underlined www.Scotweb.com text with your unique URL as the actual link.

And then encourage people to copy it and send it to all their Joomla friends.
Pass-alongs are the source one of the largest returns in direct marketing.
Many times much larger than the original distribution.

This will create more traffic than just direct distribution.
A unique landing page which includes a nice description of you and your services with a contact form will increase inquiries.

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:38 pm
by RedEvo
Excellent, many thanks. We will take all this onboard and adjust the doc.

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:41 am
by Catamaran
Brilliant job! I've been looking specifically for this. Saves a lot of time for all of us and is much appreciated.

I also agree completely with every point of kenmcd's post.

Keep up the great work :)

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:11 pm
by dd1313
Good Job..Thanks

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:49 am
by kinne
scotweb wrote: Our new Joomla End Users Guide is ready for download from the downloads area of http://www.scotweb.com. Caron has worked hard on this but as ever feedback and crit welcome.
Thanks a lot for this work!
I bought the PacktPub Mambo Book (http://www.packtpub.com/mambo/book). Although interesting and certainly usefull, it's not as complete as what I was expecting.
Since I still prefer to own a book because I don't like reading on a screen, I was already considering creating my own PDF file based on the available manual in the Help section at http://help.joomla.org/. Then I found your End User Documentation.
This User Guide is really the kind of things needed to understand the structure better. The format is great, the screen shots are fair and your comments are clear. This will save many Joomla! users a lot of time.
Great job!

PS: It is written on every page that the document may not be copied, duplicated, or transmitted without the express written approval of the copyright holder, but on page 2, the last sentence says if you find this document useful please pass it on to other Joomla! users. Although I think that I understand what is meant, this is maybe contradictory, isn't it?

Kinne

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:13 pm
by RedEvo
You are right. We will tidy this copyright stuff up  :)

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:50 pm
by setanta
Shouldn't this document have a link from the documentation site on joomla.org?

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:52 pm
by spideyh2003
thanks for the documentation!

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:12 am
by RedEvo
Just a quick note to say http://www.scotweb.com are now http://www.redevolution.com. Docs are still available and of course free at the new address.

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:01 pm
by malibu
scotweb wrote: You are right. We will tidy this copyright stuff up  :)
Thanks again for creating a great resource... however, you still have not modified your copyright.  I am hesitant to share this to clients when doing so would be in violation of your current copyright notice.

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:04 pm
by RedEvo
Yeah, will do, not enough hours in the day :-) Be confident that we would not pursue you, please feel free to issue the document.

dave

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:27 pm
by eddyyanto
scotweb wrote: Yeah, will do, not enough hours in the day :-) Be confident that we would not pursue you, please feel free to issue the document.

dave
lol, you're actually asking him to broke the copyright notice in your Joomla! 1.0 Start Guide.  :laugh:

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:32 pm
by RedEvo
I know, but we are too busy to address it, we'll sort it when we Red Evo them. It's not like the document isn't being ripped off anyway - we know for a fact it is.

There's no blood on the floor and that's my rule for how serious something is ;-).

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:40 pm
by brian
scotweb wrote: There's no blood on the floor
It could be arranged  ;)

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:46 pm
by RedEvo
Any volunteers to re-badge our docs as Red Evolution and sort the copyright issue??

Pretty please......blood makes me feint......

:)

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:56 pm
by brian
If you let me have the original doc file it shouldnt take too long

Brian

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:00 pm
by eddyyanto
Yeah, your distributable docs security were set high.
Only printing and content extraction for accessibility were set allowed.
Original docs would made the docs done!  :laugh:

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:01 pm
by RedEvo
coolio - if you mail me david at redevolution dot com I'll zoom it over, much appreciated!

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:48 am
by kenmcd
David,

I have modified the quide for you again:
- Rebuilt the bookmarks
- Activated the footer links (and changed Redevolution to RedEvolution)
- Added page numbers in the footer
- Added text "About Red Evolution" to page 2
- Fixed page 2 links, text said RedEvolution links still Scotweb, colored blue
- Added logo to pages 2 & 3
- Set Initial View to Fit Page and show Bookmarks Panel
- Set all links to Inherit Zoom
- Added Document Title and set it to display instead of file name
- Reset Security

Let me know if something is not right and I will fix.

You still have some odd things in the headers:
- "CMS 4.5.2" on pages 22 & 23
- different headers don't seem to have a structure

File is a little bigger - 1.3 MB
Download here:
EDIT: download from RedEvolution.com

Please let me know when you have it.

Regards,

Ken

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:00 am
by RedEvo
Thanks for this, the 4.5.2 thing is a throw back to good old Mambo, will need to change  this ;-)

d

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:08 am
by eddyyanto
Ken, i suggest you to make the file size smaller by applying zip.

Errors:
Links were still scotweb.com on line:
- page 17 of 42
- page 29 of 42
- page 42 of 42

And there's some typos in page 23 of 42:

Re: Joomla End User Doc Ready

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:22 am
by kenmcd
The PDF file was already optimized - zipping will save very little.
Maximum compression ZIP goes from 1,346 KB to 1,227 KB
Plus this link will be removed now that David has the file.
One shot download.

Regarding Scotweb in the text . . .
I did not proof-read document.
All I did was add some structural and usability features to the PDF.
Some text editing of PDFs is possible, but confined spaces such as the text within the balloon on those pages is definitely not going to have a good result. Putting a larger text (Red Evolution) in the space of the smaller text (Scotweb) is going to push that line out of the balloon. One of my tools will now re-flow edited text in a PDF (Acrobat won't do this), but it's a pain to do for marginal results, and I did not notice it anyway.
The best place to fix these is in the original document.

Typos - I didn't read it.
Again, the best place to fix these is in the original document.

Thanks for reporting the errors.
Sharp eyes.

David does Caron have some more editing to do?
:)