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Bad Code, Garbage Symbols, and Just Bad Mark-Up - Post Here

Post by charlwillia6 » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:37 am

To The Community,

Now that the Help Site is available, you have probably noticed that there is a lot of symbols, garbage, and bad mark-up in the help docs.  Because of the conversion from $ambo, much of the HTML within the docs has been damaged and broken.  If you notice these docs, please let us know in this thread.  I will be checking almost everyday and will fix as I go. 

Example of garbage symbols, or characters:

99((@#'{help99((@#'{

Thanks in advance!

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Post by bluesaze » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:02 am

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Post by Michelle Bisson » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:05 am

bluesazem,

Thanks!
Chapter ?: Home    (there is a question mark)
  We haven't decided on it's chapter number.

Some of our chapters may change it's order as we restucture the admin manual.
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Post by charlwillia6 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:04 am

Guess we have caught a majority of them Michelle.  Nobody is posting.
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Post by charlwillia6 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:16 pm

bump
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Post by Michelle Bisson » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:42 pm

There are a few pages left, I have Manuman working on this.
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Post by bluesaze » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:53 pm

http://help.joomla.org/content/view/73/153/

"Order : Shows the order of Static Content Items in list. You may change it by editing 2 # conjointly and clicking on the ‘Save Order’ icon next to the Column Heading ‘Order’."
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Post by kenmcd » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:59 pm

Help Site Garbage Strings

search string  (# of results)
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‘ (52)

’   (57)

 (20)

N°   (2)

“ (20)

� (20)
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Post by Michelle Bisson » Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:40 am

Thanks!
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Post by charlwillia6 » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:03 am

The Static Content Manager has been updated at http://help.joomla.org/content/view/73/153/.  Thanks bluesaze.
kenmcd wrote:
Help Site Garbage Strings

search string  (# of results)
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‘ (52)

’   (57)

 (20)

N°   (2)

“ (20)

� (20)


Thanks for the heads-up kenmcd.  I will look into this.  I never thought of that...
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Post by Hackwar » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:06 pm

god doesn't play dice with the universe. not after that drunken night with the devil where he lost classical mechanics in a game of craps.

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Post by charlwillia6 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:35 pm

Thanks Hackwar,

This had been changed.

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Post by guilliam » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:55 pm

@Charles,.. thanks for all the efforts ;)
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Post by kenmcd » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:13 am

Edited out some of the garbage.

Today starting search results:

‘    48

’    53

    20

N°          2

“    20

â€?      20

          10


Today ending search results:

‘    34

’    41

      0

N°          0

“      0

â€?        0

            0
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Post by charlwillia6 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:28 am

Thanks Ken.  I have been slacking working on links on the help site. Between us all, we should get it done soon.
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Post by guilliam » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:35 pm

@ken and @charles,..

pls take note that there is a suggestion made by @dikud in this thread:

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,16735.0.html

this suggestion is already forwarded to the attention of @manuman and @michelle,..

if this suggestion is implemented in the help site.. it would make the doc team's work easier.

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Post by kenmcd » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:43 pm

Start today:
Search String        # pages results
‘              30
’              37
É                  13

End today:
Search String        # pages results
‘              0
’              0
É                  0


Unless different strings are found - that should be it.
All garbage should be gone.
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Post by charlwillia6 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:05 am

Thanks Ken
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Post by Michelle Bisson » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:42 am

Thanks Ken!!!
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Post by charlwillia6 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:53 am

Thanks to Ken, the following strings should be absent from the help site:

‘

’ 

   

N°     

“   

â€?   

       

‘ 

’

     

N°     

“ 

�

         

If anyone in the community finds any more symbols are bad looking code, let us know.  We are hoping we have finally rid the help site of it.  Thanks.
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Post by Michelle Bisson » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:47 am

Thanks Ken and Charles for working hard at getting rid of them!!!
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Post by Linharex » Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:56 am

I found some bugs from topic named Menu Manager : Main Menu and other Menus at http://help.joomla.org/content/view/67/153/

These bugs appear both on site and help screen of Joomla_1.1.0-Alpha which I've just downloaded yesterday!
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Post by charlwillia6 » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:31 am

Thanks Linharex,

I am still making a list of all the bad symbols and what they should actually be.  So far I have:

‘      =    '    (e.g. 'Content)
’      =    '    (e.g.  Content')
      =    -  (e.g. - content)
–    =    -    (e.g. - content)

I am giving these to Manuman, and once he has a complete list he will change all the symbols in the database.

Keep sending us as many links as you can find.  Thanks again.
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Post by kenmcd » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:39 pm

It is odd that these do not show up on a search.
Same symbols as before. Why is that?

Regarding replacing the junk:
When this ’ was supposed to be a possessive apostrophe (e.g. Dave's) - that is how I edited.

The other single quotes which were used to a identify a term or other such item, I just removed the junk.
Identifying terms, input, etc. is more appropriately done with styles (quotes are another old typewriter holdover).
I assume when the style guide team is done, we will have a word styles which are more like a modern publication.
O'Reilly and Wiley books both have good styles to use for examples.
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