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Post by fire2006 » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:29 am

Hi there,  you probably already know this, but currently, we are seeing a shift from the 2D web, to the i3D, Internet 3D

with the rise of social networking sites, and integration of 3D worlds, the 2D web will soon transform into an environment where "you aren't alone" anymore while starring at a webpage!

What I'd like to see, is the joomla community to take a brief look at how, they can turn the number one CMS in the world - JOOMLA into a place that integrates with the emerging i3D.

Drupal has a project already out which is attempting to merge Second Life (from Linden Labs)  http://www.secondlife.com with it's CMS (http://drupal.org/project/secondlife). 

Developers from Moodle.org have created a project call http://www.sloodle.com/  which integrates the worlds number one opensource LMS with the world....

now its time for JOOMLA to turn heads.

some ideas are:
  • Secondlife - Joomla authentication
  • - Blogging FROM SL into joomla
[*]Contents from Joomla INTO secondlife via webservices
[/list]


takers anyone?

Id love to see this project get going!!!!
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Post by RussW » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:46 am

If you are offering to start/develop a project, I am sure that the community at large, or at least SecondLife participants would be very pleased.  JoomlaCode.org would be the place to open the project, manage you development and store any extensions that you might build.
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Post by deviantdev » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:00 pm

Interesting but I have to finish my GSoC project first.

keep us posted. :)

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Post by bigodines » Tue May 01, 2007 7:03 pm

Is there any documentation about what kind of webservices second life support?

This is just for curiosity... I don't even use SecondLife because the linux version is unstable.... :(

If it is webservice-based it probably won't be that hard to integrate...

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Post by fire2006 » Wed May 02, 2007 3:54 am

hi there, there are lots of webservices in Second life,
and they have a huge development community

here is the link to their wiki: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Web_Services_Portal
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/

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Post by bigodines » Wed May 02, 2007 12:57 pm

All I see is this RegAPI for registration :/

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Post by fire2006 » Wed May 02, 2007 3:14 pm

youll probably need to take  a look at the general wiki... here is a link to the xml-rpc in the wiki: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:LSL_XML-RPC
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Post by phreakys » Fri May 11, 2007 12:43 pm

I'm currently doing joomla-second life authentication.
It has a second life object that manages users(registration - user/pw), and checks for XMLRPC messages to come in.
With curl and joomla 1.5 it sends a xmlrpc call to the ll-xmlrpc server. the object linked to the channelrequest checks if the password/user is right, and sends
back a login/refusal response.

all this works fine, but $response->status = JAUTHENTICATE_STATUS_SUCCESS_COMPLETE; doesn't seem to be enough
to do the login/user creation, since i get "Username and password do not match". I don't know enough about the joomla 1.5 api right now to fix it.
Any help would be appreciated. I'm currently working at the Getronics R&D island under the name GP Runo.

by the way: I just got the regAPI, so maybe it's possible to create a custom SL-registration from joomla .
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Post by Basetballjones » Fri May 11, 2007 1:41 pm

This idea could be something really big!  I'm not the biggest fan of Second life only because my incredible bad connection and packet loss issues, but it goes beyond 3d world and steps onto a plateau so far above anything else...

While i would be totally helpless in writing the PHP calls, I can envision many integrations..

Login and stats would be great, but if you provide users of your site with a feed of their inventory, maybe a Buddy list that shows each members own friends when they go online...

But the two things I see that could really blow the doors off the whole deal:

Broker real estate as if you were a real.. um real estate site

Put a development sandbox extension on your site (don't know if it's possible, but you would be the king of Soomla)
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Post by phreakys » Fri May 11, 2007 4:13 pm

I posted the lsl-code and the php-code so more users can toy with it(http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,169122.0.html). Purposes for real-estate is indeed a very good idea. Like you have a photo of a house, and a link to the inworld location of the house. would be very nice to have yes...
Someone else in the community is busy building a SLuRL component. I'll check his progress. Maybe its possible to join projects...

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Post by phreakys » Fri May 11, 2007 6:12 pm

Sandbox area is setup at the Getronics R&D island. 1296m2 to experiment with :-)

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Post by fire2006 » Thu May 31, 2007 5:35 am

Hi GP!!! I never read this post until now!

You rock the casba! Way to go!  For any others reading this, there is also a thread of this discusion here:
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,169122.0.html

I also have access to Reg-API... and want to get that working with Joomla, I had a few errors with my php version. but hopefully will get those resolved... I am in contact with a linden (in RL) over beers! So he has been really great in providing me with contacts to help on this...

Lets stay in touch!!!!
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Post by Basetballjones » Thu May 31, 2007 6:27 am

You guys make me want to download SL again and get in on this.. I couldn't be of much help with the php, but I could help pick up some slack with the web design and graphics if needed..

I had to drop SL because of the excessive packet loss, I spent more time walking into invisible buildings and warping randomly around the map.

Oh and the time I clicked on a "Dance" sphere to get down with this hot pixel named Janine, and the script would not stop.. I danced all the way across a city area just to have fun with it one last time before I flushed the whole program like a goldfish.

But to make something for joomla out of it, that would be fun to take part in, I may reconsider my opinion of SL if you guys need a little help..  I forgot my old userid and password, so it's tutorial island for me all over again :(
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Post by fire2006 » Thu May 31, 2007 6:46 am

that sucks to hear about your initial experience with SL... I must admit, Ive had similar experiences...


Ie: trying to build a house with a cube, only to become a block head with a giant 10x10x10 brick on my head!!!!
I also found several porn houses, and casinos here and there which were a bit disheartening... but then, after the fluff of it all... if you stick around and dig your teath in a little... you hopefully can find the other things which SL does offer...

ie: s... a really cool virtual world platform with thousands of online logged in uers...

you know... I dont really use SL not for entertainment - but rather for the  business possibilities it can provide...

Despite the fact ive made 0 dollars profit in world, I have managed to make enough money per month to pay for my islands fees (which is 150usd)

My main motivation in this world was to make a virtual school... thus i started English Village... after 3 months, i had over 600 members join my group in world... mainly intersted educators and such.  Every saturday, a teacher from Germany and the US, come to my island and teach over 30 avatars English...

I think thats pretty cool.

I have also amassed a lot of new 3D building and texturing skills along the way...
but the main thing that I think is REALLY cool about sl is:

1) you can develop in an environment, where, other developers can.... WALK UP AND TALK WITH YOU.
Now I think that is wicked collaboration, AND also the FUTURE of the web.

Currently, SL has MANY limitations - ie: all images must be uploaded to SL if you want to display them, and text must be input into SL notecards -- but.... given time, that will change.  There are several other Virtual World technologies that already have web browsers IN their worlds... just wait till THAT hits SL.... then, fellow joomla developers could all meet in a virtual office, and hack code together...  its not here yet... but silently and surely... it is coming...

anyhow... with the new joomla 1.5 and the webservices it offers, there  is GREAT potential here...

just - as you beging SL, and hopefuly SLOOMLA, be aware that linden labs, and its users, are pioneers here - they are creating bleeding edge stuff... therefore... certain things in SL WILL be clunky.. ie - you may get stuck with a block on your head, or stuck doing the funky chicken for hours on end without being able to stop the animation -

but, if you can survive this, and hold a forgiving mind, i think the benefits will overcome, and hopefully you'll make that virtual skirt that gets sold to millions of sl users!

Anyhow, if you wanna see what Ive done with SL, come to my virtual island:English Village... ive managed to take it to the third revision now, and have mountains, trees, and even blue tullips scattered around the place...

it actually kinda looks like ewoke village!  I have several giant tree houses sprinked around my island which house my resident educators and researchers.

Kip yellowjacket is one of my teachers from Germany, and Jordyn Peccable helps him from the USA.
Then there is Edmund Earp who is an IT manager from japan and is actively working on the SLOODLEproject - (a mashup of moodle and second life)  He is currently trying to program the vines from his treehouse to connect with the questions of a moodle quiz... if you answer correctly, your opponent goes down (on his vine) and you go up... when you hit the ground... you get swallowed up by the virtual quicksand! MWAHAHAHA!

Just a cool idea we had in a conversation in world. 
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Post by Basetballjones » Thu May 31, 2007 7:03 am

Yes, I have studied the SL model to a great extent and have read a number of articles referring not only to it's virtual office potential,  but also it's seemingly endless ability to evolve almost without the developers themselves, as the community builds more and more function into it.
I was very impressed by the scripting capabilites, and actually spent more time playing with that utility than doing anything with my actual avatar.

I had a scheme for a few days to integrate voip from outworld to inworld- vice/versa, but I just didn't have the VOIP server to back up any development or testing.

Trust me, I left SL more sad than upset, I see the great potential there, and would love to use it to promote my online gaming teams, try my hand at rendering, and a million other things I conceived in the short time I was there.

But when it came down to it, the main reason i dropped it I was alone and it is hard to meet or converse with people when your messages get lost with dropped packets and then all the sudden you are stuck to the side of a restricted area, and then underwater and can't seem to fly anymore and just lol at the whole thing sometimes.

I think if I knew some people there and had a reason to be there, the bugs wouldn't be much of an issue, and may be the source of some laughs.. it's just no fun to laugh by yourself- they used to classify that as insanity  :laugh:

Tell ya what, I'll download that sucker again this weekend and jump in for awhile, get my in world legs back and finish up tutorials.. I'll shoot you a pm or otherwise get in contact with ya'll once I am done with all that,
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Post by fire2006 » Thu May 31, 2007 7:07 am

cool, well... if you want a sandbox to experiment in, I can offer you a free one on my island for the spirit of sloomla!!!! My avatar name is Fire Centaur.. just offer me friendship and ill send you a tp (teleport link) to english village!

Cheers!
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Post by Basetballjones » Thu May 31, 2007 7:30 am

fire2006 wrote: cool, well... if you want a sandbox to experiment in, I can offer you a free one on my island for the spirit of sloomla!!!! My avatar name is Fire Centaur.. just offer me friendship and ill send you a tp (teleport link) to english village!

Cheers!
WooHoo!  I'll see ya there this weekend! 
And thanks, I would like to at least have a chance to have some fun with SL.  It's been a few months, who knows, maybe they've updated around my packet loss issues- I never believed for one second that it was my net, and i run an XPS 700, so not hardware.. at the time, I just threw up my hands and gave up.  This ought a be cool, though.

Until then, take it easy!
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Post by sounds » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:24 pm

:)
Fire's description for the joomlasl project on his facebook, hit the nail on the head for me,
Thanks for the invite fire, some intresting subjects on there, regapi etc, i signed up for that :)
I'm intrested in combining what i've learnt about cms and all it's extensions and intergrating them with 3d/sl.
Hope to catch up with you in sl, glad i found someone with simular intrests, maybe i'll learn some of the good stuff.
Big party when I reach 10,000 posts.

Thank you :pop:

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Post by fire2006 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:17 pm

thats great, interest seams to be growing in the Joomla Community about SL... I think we have a big opportunity here to realize web 3.0 - which, in my opinion, and many others - will be 3D - therefore, it only makes sense that the worlds #1 CMS grasp hold and start experimenting now!
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Post by RvA » Mon May 05, 2008 12:19 pm

Very cool too see that many people trying to merge Joomla and Second Life to one powerfull solution !
Of course i am able to cowork with ya all !
Renevanasten.net released a new component for the CMS system: Joomla!

The component is able to do a Google powered search, but then Second Life related.
Are you a Joomla! / Mambo user ? Then you sure need this component !

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Click here to download (website needs registration to download)
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Post by aramil » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:07 pm

Guys take a look to http://opensimulator.org. I believe a joomla opensim integration can be even better.
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