I couple of questions:The Lounge
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Why is this discussion placed in The Lounge? This is probably the most important current topic on the forums. However, most of the 115,000 members probably don't know this discussion is here.
This area is supposed to be for opinions, yet it is impossible to give an opinion on any topic response. This makes it very difficult to carry a discussion. Would the mods consider allowing Joomla forum members to post followup questions? If not, I believe the same questions/opinions are going to be posted over and over.
I had been a Mambo user back in the day, and gladly followed the devs to Joomla and never regretted it. But as a user there is concern for the future. Joomla is the core. The foundation for website development. I would have to assume almost every Joomla site ever built includes at least one extension. The flexibility and variety of extensions makes Joomla the perfect choice for most web site development. As severdia posted, roughly 16% of the extensions offered in the extensions area are commercial, and 81% are GPL. And yes, I am aware that commercial extensions can be GPL compliant. But I am also aware that many developers of those commercial extensions are also the developers of the GPL extensions that most of us users rely on. And many of those commercial extensions are listed twice. A basic GPL version, and a more extensive commercial version. If the commercial non-GPL developers decide Joomla is no longer a viable place for them to offer their products, not only would those commercial extensions disappear, but the GPL extensions also. Plus any possible future extensions from these developers will never be made. This is a concern to all Joomla users.
Reading post after post about lawyers is disconcerting.
Isn't Joomla currently saying "its my way or the highway". In almost every response I read to a question on this subject, that is the feeling I get.The notion that somehow the project has "outgrown" the GPL is silly in my opinion. There seems to be an awful lot of people saying "its my way or the highway" and while I can appreciate someone who makes a stand on something they believe in, we are in no way obligated to change our license because of that sort of stance.
While the GPL may have not been detrimental to Joomla core development and progress, now that the talk of GPL enforcement has arisen, it has done much to stifle innovation and progress on a host of both GPL and non-GPL commercial extensions. And yes, I'm sure the GPL was perfect for Mambo when there were no installable extensions. But that doesn't apply here. Unless Joomla plans on reverting to that. Joomla has evolved and changed, and is on the cusp of a huge leap. Maybe it is time for its view on licensing needs to evolve also?Thus far I don't believe the GPL has hindered the Joomla! project or been detrimental, it has in fact allowed us to exist and done nothing to stifle innovation or progress along the way. The GPL has been our license ... it has worked effectively for us since way back before installable extensions even existed for Mambo.
Again this is the opinion of one Joomla user, with no stake in Joomla or extension development, other than the need to rely on both.