That was just basic logic, not rudeness.

[AmyStephen]

I echo the sentiment that is the impetus for this thread.

For those who believe GPL'd software is not dependable, or secure, or stable, or extensible, or valuable in this world - for gosh sakes, don't use Joomla!. Joomla! is built on principles of free and open source software. If those principles are not good enough for an extension - then, how is it good enough for the core?

To make that connection is not rude, it's basic logic.

Let's extend a little faith and trust and appreciation and rebuild the community instead of continuing to tear it down. For those of us watching from the sidelines, it's easy to judge but how well do you think you'd respond to all of these questions?

I look forward to the day when people realize this adjustment was not only possible for those who wish to earn a living using Joomla!, but it was also good for the Joomla! project and community, as a whole.

Keep the faith, guys!
Amy

[teckademic]

I second this...

Joomla! worked hard on a CMS they wanted people to enjoy, and wanted it to be easy for anyone to make a website. Now there is people who whine and moan because they don't like Joomla!'s actions or product.Heaven forbid that these people who whine and moan about Joomla! actually go and make there own, and their own vision.

This comment is not related to Ms. Stephen's post, It is my own rant.

[AmyStephen]

In response to this post and this post - please don't walk away for awhile and the thrill is not gone! We need our experienced and caring community members to get *more* involved, not less! Please consider, instead, helping the community adapt and conform to the GPL and become even stronger.

With nothing BUT respect,
Amy

[AmyStephen]

Regarding this post, I personally don't see you as a bad guy. I see you as frustrated and concerned for our community. That's a heck of a lot better than apathetic!

But, I don't see your response as helpful.

In fact, the thread is only stirring things up and, for what? Anyone who has been around Joomla! since it's beginnings knows mcsmom has consistently been here for this community, well before assuming a role on the OSM as board president. She has been patient. She has answered countless questions. She has written the vast majority of the FAQs. She has quietly contributed.

And, not one time has she suggested it's my way or the highway.

You've been around, Chuck. You must know what I am saying is true.

So, what is your overall point? Other than getting others angry and frustrated, what do you hope to gain with your discussion? That's what I don't understand.

If you are trying to say, these are trying times, then, yes, I agree. This is a challenging time for our community.

All the best, Chuck.
Amy