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BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by newart » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:06 am

I've my eyes delighted by BEEZ on nightly build and also http://www.joomla-beez.com/index.php?Itemid=1 - I'm managing to learn fast and more about this project but I need to know about the possible relation between BEEZ and the logo and study by http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG1AAA-Conformance as in their page they state that Claims are not verified by W3C. Content providers are solely responsible for the use of these logos. And without an official testing practice, I have to know from you where BEEZ can go...

In other words, can BEEZ use the logo in the Joomla core package?
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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by a.radtke » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:02 pm

Hey,

A lot of pages uses this logo.
Many of these pages are not really accessible, so there is a lack of credibility for this logo, now.
That's a pitty.
Here in Germany we have many people , who wants to have a certification from some accessibility experts.
I'm against this , because all these people wants to make money with this.

And when you are honest, don't forget, that Beez is only a template.
Accessiblity is not using an accessible template only.
It's very import how you structure and organize you content.

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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by newart » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:01 pm

a.radtke wrote: And when you are honest, don't forget, that Beez is only a template.
Accessiblity is not using an accessible template only.
It's very import how you structure and organize you content.
Angie I totally agree with you and I like the way you write.

About structuring and organize "my" contents I have, in general, no problem as I can control, check them. I can think about them, etc. The problem is how to "control" Joomla and also a good template for an accessible site (I think it is more important than the framework used).

I have received from an italian national review a 4 stars (on a total of 5 stars) about accessibility in a site of mine. (I'd like to inform you that my work is only by passion, for free, as all my sites are for missionaries, parishes and so on - my daily real work is in another sector! ), I see a site (by me) in a special compilation at 5th position in Italy by Internet magazine... and since aug 2006 I'm still in the 5th :)
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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by a.radtke » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:30 pm

Hey,

I think everybody can use this logo if he want, but I don't want to use it per default, because we do not know what "somebody" is doing with it.

I hope you understand , what I mean. ;)

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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by newart » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:05 pm

I understand and I have to agree with you. On my own as accessibility is a focus for me please see also my posts about an accessible URL as follows,
newart wrote: ... about an "accessible" URL (I don't know how to explain better my issue :( )


This is only for pointing out that our matters is at 360° - not only a template... (even if templating is very important!)
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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by pdelbar » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:18 am

In Belgium, we have a label (AnySurfer) which comes with a certification procedure. The people doing the audit are visually impaired and have personal experience with screen readers and other assistive technology. We're developing an AnySurfer-compliant templpate for a customers oon, and we're definitelylooking into using the Beez template as a basis. In case we get any useful comments from the audits, we'll pass them on here.

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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by newart » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:14 am

Have you any link where I can read something? I speak french, too.
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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by pdelbar » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:25 am

The site is at http://www.anysurfer.be/fr/. It features a detailed description of all their reference points (for both the 'normal' AnySurfer and the 'strict' AnySurfer Plus label) with examples and tips to address them. Also contains a lot of links. What is lacking at this time is a PDF document containing all of these in one go.

The basis for the predecessor (the BlindSurfer label) was WCAG 1.0, but this did not address contemporary web techniques. Since WCAG 2 not available yet, and is also under dispute -- ah, the wonderful world of standards -- they went ahead and formulated a set of requirements which are well motivated from a practice perspective, and they did a wonderful job of building an audit system.

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Re: BEEZ and the logo W3C accessible

Post by newart » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:34 am

Thank you! I' m going to see that site, at a glimpse it seems to me easier than italian "messing" rules...
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