Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

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Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by MyFirstPage » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:18 pm

[youtube] is nice and have a "no cookie" option like:

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<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.[youtube]-nocookie.com/embed/lcmz8VgDixA?rel=0&amp;controls=0&amp;showinfo=0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
:D

Beside of then how about the other Video Delivery Company?
I want make a simple think an Page who I show just Videos to a certain Topic for everyone who will not follow, use,... any of there "Social Platform". :D

Does I have to mark the Videos as "Advertising" because (some) Video Delivery Platform show Ads?
Sure there are not my Ads and I dont gain any Money from show the Videos to anyone.

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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by waarnemer » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:37 am

It depends.
Are you the owner of the videos?
If so you can decide to not use advertisement usually..

If you are not, you cannot decide to not show advertisement. Simply as the actual owner may have decided to use ads to make some living..

embedding the video does not change the ownership.

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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by MyFirstPage » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:45 am

Nope I will just show Videos from local Company. I dont know if the have "hidden" Ads in there Profile.
Now it harder now with the GDPR.

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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by mandville » Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:41 pm

Notify the owner you are using their videos,
place a disclaimer that you are using videos from soandso company,
place a disclaimer you are not responsible for any adverts, promotions or other content in the videos
declare [youtube] video cookies in your TOS/PP/WP29 statements.
do your own videos
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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by MyFirstPage » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:49 am

Notify the owner you are using their videos,
I cant contact them.
place a disclaimer you are not responsible for any adverts, promotions or other content in the videos
perfect I will do.
your TOS/PP/WP29 statements
?! Whats that.
do your own videos
why? I will show all Videos from that Companys.

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Re: Embed Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by sozzled » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:32 am

I'll keep this very short and I'll try to keep to the point:

1) GDPR has nothing to do with violating copyright law, pilfering and re-broadcasting [youtube] videos, and doesn't make it harder (or any easier) to get away with it.
2) GDPR (despite arguments put forward by various commentators) has few consequences for website operators who operate outside the EU.
3) TOS means Terms of Service; PP means Privacy Policy. WP29 is a European statement relating to privacy. WP29 has no legal status outside the EU.
4) Not being able to contact the owners of media from "local companies" while simultaneously re-broadcasting their productions without first seeking their approval may be a breach of intellectual property and copyright law. A "disclaimer" (about part or the whole of someone else's media) is no excuse for failing to obtain permission.
5) GDPR is has nothing to do with advertising. Suggest you follow this link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+GDPR%3F
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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by MyFirstPage » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:21 pm

1) GDPR has nothing to do with violating copyright law, pilfering and re-broadcasting [[youtube]] videos, and doesn't make it harder (or any easier) to get away with it.
WAT?! :eek: I have no clue what are you talking about!
2) GDPR (despite arguments put forward by various commentators) has few consequences for website operators who operate outside the EU.
I am in the EU. :D
3) TOS means Terms of Service; PP means Privacy Policy. WP29 is a European statement relating to privacy. WP29 has no legal status outside the EU.
I see. [youtube] claim to generate no Cookie when use "www.[[youtube]]-nocookie.com". How about 3rd Party like Ads who get load by [youtube]?
And from other Service like Facebook (Embedded Video) or Vimeo I could not find any information if there is a no Cookie Variant or not and what kind of Data the collect.
4) Not being able to contact the owners of media from "local companies"
but why should i do it?
without first seeking their approval
there is no required.
without first seeking their approval may be a breach of intellectual property and copyright law.
The Upload it into [youtube], Vimeo, Facebook,...
GDPR is has nothing to do with advertising. Suggest you follow this link:
a) The Link is blocked.
b) Sure the have. Adversing Company put some Tracking Links and set a Cookie.

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Re: Embedded ads in [youtube] videos, cookies and the GDPR?

Post by sozzled » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:03 pm

[youtube], tracking cookies and "embedded" ads in streamed content have nothing to do with the GDPR. If you want help understanding what the GDPR is all about, if you want help understanding what happens if you use [youtube] videos on your website without obtaining the owners' permission, please talk to a legal expert. Find out the facts; don't dispute your opinions with others on an Internet discussion forum until you know exactly where you stand in a legal sense.
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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by mandville » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:50 pm

MyFirstPage wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:49 am
I cant contact them.
to me that screams that you are using their content without their consent. hope your WP29 lawyers are versatile.
i am sure their ytube place a comment section or similar like a website link, or a twitter handle??
cookies CAN be used to identify a user but it is best to read articles 26 and 30 several times then read it backwards and take out all the vowels and then read it again to fully understand it
and that wonderful no cookie site you keep shouting the praises of? well i think you need to look at it again. it does set cookies.
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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by MyFirstPage » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:54 am

to me that screams that you are using their content without their consent.
Why? [youtube], Vimeo, Facebook allow me to embedd there contend into my page. So when should I need additional Permission?
WP29
That is? :geek:

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Re: Embedd Video and GDPR + (mark them as Advertising)?

Post by pe7er » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:20 pm

MyFirstPage wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:54 am
to me that screams that you are using their content without their consent.
Why? [[youtube]], Vimeo, Facebook allow me to embedd there contend into my page. So when should I need additional Permission?
You will need additional permission from your visitors if those external sites that you use set 3rd party cookies on your visitors browsers.

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WP29
That is? :geek:
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