Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

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Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by arsenal333 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:15 pm

Hello,

I've spent the last few months playing with Joomla 1.5 for a website

http://www.hotearth.net.au

If your just starting out you may think that a good looking website is your primary concern, think again...

Right now start thinking Search engine optimization (SEO) !!! It will save you a lot of wasted time and effort. But then maybe you don't want your website to be found via search engines.

So search the internet for SEO optimized joomla 1.5 templates and find one thats usable, as I've been told, make sure the code is as human readable as possible. Search engines like google will be ruthless with your website. (I've chosen JA_Purity)

Now I needed something to help display correct <title>Hot Earth - Australia</title><meta name="description"/> <meta name="keywords" />. I found that the native abilities just didn't cut it.
So after some searching I found Joomla 1.5 SEO Patch http://extensions.joomla.org/component/ ... Itemid,35/
in short install it, works a treat.

Next you will need something to generate a sitemap that is compatible with search engines.. I am using http://extensions.joomla.org/component/ ... Itemid,35/

Well your pretty much up to where I am.

Right now I'm searching for a way to automatically generate keywords and descriptions for articles. So far that has eluded me.

If anyone's able to point me in the right direction then please feel free.
Likewise if anyone would like to comment on my website http://www.hotearth.net.au then please do. :D

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by erad67 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:14 am

I looked at your site briefly. Looked nice, but I'd change the favicon instead of using the Joomla one.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by arsenal333 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:33 am

Good pickup - I missed that...

I have added it to my list of todo's :-[

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by erad67 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:01 am

Yea, no prob.

Thanks for the info and links in your post. I'm a first timer hoping to install and use a CMS for the first time. I've made websites before, but a long time ago and the technology has changed a lot since then. Feeling rather lost most of the time.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by arsenal333 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:03 am

What I would suggest if you haven't done it already is to setup a test site. It's a faily easy exercise, just copy you main site to a sub directory eg \test then make a copy of your mysql database and call it sosmething else eg mytestbd
then manually edit the configuation.php in the test location with the new dbname.

Has saved me blowing away my site a couple of times... Always nice to test out of the eye's of the public :D

I'm currently waiting for a good PM solution for Joomla/Fireboard.
The only critisism i'd have is the polls support - would have thought they'd make it easier at add polls directly to articles and have multiple polls available per section or category... (maybe it can and I'm just missing something)

Also while I think of it, you may want to try tools like https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools ... view?hl=en and https://www.google.com/analytics/report ... mp=average to help in the search engine stakes.

It requires that you pleace code into your website for verification and stats tracking. I looked for plugin to do this and found I wasted my effort - it far easier just to place it in the 'public_html/templates/ja_purity/index.php ' myself. Would have saved myself 3 or 4 hours if I'd done it from the start...

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by erad67 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:08 am

Thanks again for the info.

I installed Joomla 1.5 yesterday. I like the idea of also having a test site so I can make my mistakes, which I'm sure I'll make many of. I know how to copy to another folder. Editing the configuation.php looks really easy. However, I don't see how to copy my mysql database. I see how to make a new one, set up user & password, and to delete, but nothing about copying.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by brad » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:21 am

Moving to the site showcase.
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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by arsenal333 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:10 am

I'm no expert by anymeans - but the way I found was to create an empty mysql database - my current hosting provider uses 'cpanel' for site creation, admin, etc. As part of the functions I can create a backup of my 'mysql' database. I simply restored the data and structure to the empty mysql database I created for the test site.

Also after doing some more research into SEO, my friend advised I take a look at a text only web browser and see how my website renders. If the structure is not particually readable than chances are a search engine will have trouble to.
I used http://csant.info/lynx.htm fortunately my site rendered fairly well. So largely I'm happy with my template and content.

What we did find was that the template does not render content headings in H1 tags, rather it uses table classes defined in css. He mentioned that this was not ideal as a search engine would have difficulty detecting the actual article heading. There are other small issues like that one which are poping up, certainly when I started down this path I didn't believe it was ever this involved....

And apparantly this is only the start, I was advised that to really get the rankings up I would need to place custom meta data (descriptions, keywords) for every article....

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by erad67 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:17 am

Ok, I too have cPanel. (I'm with HostGator.) I was able to back up the database, but was not able to find an option allowing me to restore it as another database.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by arsenal333 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:13 pm

Hello erad67,

I think you will need to store the design and data only - not restore as another database.
Create a new database - go 'myphpadmin'

select the new database

then select 'import'
add your sql file and hit go

that should create your design and data in your new database.. :D

Took me a while to figure it out...

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by erad67 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:58 am

Thanks. I think I FINALLY figured it out. There was no Myphpadmin. On Hostgator, It is phpMyAdmin and accessed from a link w/small letters at the very bottom of the MySQL® Databases area.

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Re: Joomla 1.5 Install - A First Time Experience

Post by jiabin » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:53 am

We use the same template


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