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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by Oceanwatcher » Sun May 16, 2010 7:09 pm

@Brian

I agree about embedding what is already there. But would also try to move to stage 2 as soon as possible. I think the ultimate goal should be a good platform that we control ourselves. And I think it is a good idea to encourage those that have videos already to upload if possible. Those that do not have will just have to go with the embedding.

For all new videos, it would be better to use Amazon S3. We could even offer full resolution videos through the torrent function. One of Norways biggest broadcasters did an experiment with this and offered one of their series in HD resolution on Amazon S3. 120.000 episodes downloaded. The cost? Appr. the same as buying an iPhone :) As Joomla is a free and open source project, it might even be possible to get Amazon to sponsor a space there. It is worth a shot...

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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brian » Sun May 16, 2010 8:02 pm

Svein. I'm a big fan of grabbing low hanging fruit and starting small. But if it's done right from the beginning then it should be easy to move towards the s3 option.
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by Oceanwatcher » Sun May 16, 2010 8:22 pm

Only one thing to say - let's get started!

Maybe you should talk to Fotis to hear more about what he is doing for video. If it fits the purpose, why not?

As I see it, K2 with the AllVideos plugin makes it real easy to link to existing media. And if they could get out a new version of the AllVideos plugin that used HTML5 with Flash as fallback, it would actually be the easiest way to get things done too.
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brian » Sun May 16, 2010 8:40 pm

I'm aware of what fotis has done ;)
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by timothy.stiffler » Sun May 16, 2010 9:41 pm

Just wanted to make sure you guys didn't miss my last post from the first page of this thread. Sometimes those last page posts can get lost. ;)
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brian » Sun May 16, 2010 10:03 pm

I saw it but i'm afraid i ignored it as it was counter to the original idea
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by timothy.stiffler » Sun May 16, 2010 10:13 pm

No worries. As usual, I appreciate your honesty. Just figured it would help solve the issue of having so many different locations for videos by pulling them together. Thought it was best not to waste a second thread, since both your solution and mine would essentially work hand-in-hand.
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by imscoop22 » Sun May 16, 2010 10:18 pm

@Brad, Yes, I am willing to help out.

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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by JacquesR » Sun May 16, 2010 10:23 pm

timothy, as you said, there' no conflict between what you suggest here:
timothy.stiffler wrote:Umm.. I'm just throwing this out there. I have no problem starting and managing a Joomla [youtube] and Vimeo channel. It's a little different than what you guys are talking about, but probably still important. If we set some standards for the types of videos that you would want added/favorited/etc, then I can stay within those standards and add videos as they are created/found.

Let me know.
and what Brian said in his first post:
brian wrote: This site would serve as a central place for these videos whilst allowing the content to still be served from their current locations (so no bandwidth concertns ;) )
the one facilitates the other.

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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brian » Sun May 16, 2010 10:28 pm

alledia wrote:Any suggestions for what that might be?
I have a personal shortlist of three although I;ve not spent enough time with any of them to chose/recommend one specific one yet

* hwdVideoShare
* Jomtube
* NYET released k2 option from joomlaworks
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brian » Sun May 16, 2010 10:36 pm

@jacques there is one problem that much of the existing content is distributed across a multitude of video platforms so we would need [youtube], vimeo, blip.tv channels etc. And we are back to having multiple locations instead of one unified location that is fully under our control in terms of format, structure etc.






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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by brad » Mon May 17, 2010 9:05 pm

imscoop22 wrote:@Brad, Yes, I am willing to help out.
Thanks Scott and Pierre.

If this idea gets out the door we'd love to have your help. Thanks for volunteering.
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by jimmybuckets » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:06 pm

Our company has a tool that we'd be willing to donate to this cause. It's perfect for taking [youtube] embed code and organizing a video page that can then be pasted onto multiple web pages. It's also has a very simple CMS and many different people could update it.

It's called SyncroSpace. www.syncrospace.com

We use Joomla! all the time, so we'd be happy to do this.

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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by Oceanwatcher » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:35 am

brian wrote:we would need [youtube], vimeo, blip.tv channels etc. And we are back to having multiple locations instead of one unified location that is fully under our control in terms of format, structure etc.
I have a feeling that this will all be taken care of by the K2/JoomlaWorks ext.

Already today, you can use AllVideos from JoomlaWorks to embed video from most of these sources, and really easy if you use K2.

The missing part would be a way for AllVideos to support Amazon S3 or other types of cloud storage as well as a module with a few more ways to display the videos (could probably be done with a bit of sub-templating).

This way, it could start as a focal point by pulling video in from all the available sources - [youtube], Vimeo, Blip.tv etc. And slowly move things over to the cloud storage as you were able to get hold of the original files.
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by Oceanwatcher » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:44 am

jimmybuckets wrote:Our company has a tool that we'd be willing to donate to this cause. It's perfect for taking [youtube] embed code and organizing a video page that can then be pasted onto multiple web pages. It's also has a very simple CMS and many different people could update it.
Is this an opensource project that you can host on your own server? It would have been absolutely perfect as an extension in Joomla integrated with all the other tools there :-) I would definitely go for it!
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by Oceanwatcher » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:08 am

The webinar part is looks very interesting. Here is an experiment:

An open source project that produces videos and want to stream their presentations at seminars (zero payment from the viewers):

10.000 users - Joomla could easily have more than this after a while
50 new videos per month - with all the usergroups and conferences - again not a big number
1000 views per video - not unthinkable
60 minutes per video - this could even be too low sometimes
20 webinars per month - as each presentation would be a new webinar, JAB or any other similar event would exceed it
500 people watching each webinar

This gives a price of 20.000 USD per month!
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Re: Official Joomla video channel

Post by jimmybuckets » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:25 pm

Is this an opensource project that you can host on your own server? It would have been absolutely perfect as an extension in Joomla integrated with all the other tools there :-) I would definitely go for it!
We have clients who use this for e-learning, but we could use the free version for this Joomla Video Channel. It can use embed code for videos, or an flv path to a server.

Here's an example of how it's being dropped into a Joomla site:
http://www.jcontheline.com/v2/dailydose

 

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