403 error - please try to reproduce ... we need feedback!

[jcalvert]

I have just discovered that this serious bug is easily reproducible in the joomla demo sites for Joomla 2.5 and 3.0. I show below how to reproduce it. See the bugtracker as I've made some inroads in discovering why it's happening.

See also: http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f ... 0#p2957800

See bugtracker: http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... m_id=29000

HOW TO REPRODUCE USING JOOMLA DEMO SITES:

Pick either the Joomla 2.5 or 3.0 demo site. Use current version of FireFox or current version of Safari.

1) Use this site: http://joomla25.cloudaccess.net

2) login as guest, guest

3) Edit the top article "Joomla!" as indicated in Step 4 below. (Note: After a few iterations of these steps, you should see a 403 error when attempting to edit the article "You are not permitted to use that link to directly access that page". Here is a screenshot from the demo site: http://crystal3.com/joomla_error1.jpg )

4) Replace the current text with "test n", where "n" is {1,2,3, ... 9}. When you get to 9, start over at 1. This numbering is just to help you identify the bug(s). So for example, the first time you save the article, the only contents will be: test 1

5) Save the article.

6) TAKE NOTE. After you save the article, does the content shown match what you just entered and saved in the editor? For example, if you entered "test 6", then save, and then outside the editor "test 5" is shown – this is one manifestation of the bug (or another bug). Things tend to go really wonky after this happens.

7) without waiting, immediately go back to step 3 and repeat

Please try to recreate this yourself. If this is some kind of timing problem related to the internet connection, we need to figure that out. I am on a Wildblue satellite link which is very fast and I'm seeing no problems with other websites.

thanks!
JC

[jcalvert]

Hey folks, please try this test on the Joomla 2.5 demo site and let us know if you were able to reproduce the 403 error while attempting to edit an article.

thanks,
JC

[jcalvert]

I need some help finding something in the Joomla 2.5 code.

I am looking at the [data:protected] array of the JInput object.

Somewhere in the code, the [configuration] field gets set to 'site'.

Can you help me locate this?

thanks,
JC

[jcalvert]

I have just made a major breakthrough.

See the reply I have just posted to the bugtracker:
http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... m_id=29000

[GJSchaller]

I'm seeing the same behavior on one of my sites. Tellingly, when the error occurs, another issue pops up that may help locate the error. In my case, I'm using Sourcerer to display the logged in user's name in the header of the site, as a Custom HTML module with a bit of code in it. When the error occurs, the raw code appears rather than the user's name:

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{source}
[[?php
$user =& JFactory::getUser();
echo $user->username;
?]]
{/source}

I've also found the issue is producible depending on how you navigate to the page being edited. If you follow the link from the Latest News module to the page, and then attempt to edit it, the issue occurs. If you browse to the article from another source (an article listing component, in my case), the error does not occur when you edit the article.

[jcalvert]

Geoffrey, what kind of internet connection are you using?

JC

[GJSchaller]

We have a very fast (almost gigabit fiber) connection to the 'net in general, and our host server is overpowered (We needed a VPS for a single Joomla site, to install a PHP extension for LDAP).

I will eat my words and say that after I posted above, I can't reproduce the same error by following the same paths, and some of my users can produce it in ways I could not before.

Two other clues that might help:

1) One of my users seems to have issues with seeing content as a Registered user (Almost all of our content is Registered only), but if she clears her cookies and logs back in, it comes back. This is off and on.

2) I noticed this morning that some Kunena posts I know I had read were suddenly unread, even though they were several days in the past. This might be related, but it might not.

This seems to have started happening after I upgraded from 2.5.9 to 2.5.10 ~ 2.5.11.

[jcalvert]

To confirm, when you are testing, you are on a client that has a very fast connection to the 'net? How about your users?

If you can reproduce your problem, I wouldn't mind setting you up for a test using my own proxy server. I was getting the strange caching-type errors, and the 403 errors, until I configured Firefox to use my proxy server.

JC

[GJSchaller]

Yes, we are all in the same office, accessing the same site (which is hosted externally).

I can't reliably reproduce it reliably, however - I'll step away for 5 - 10 minutes, and then I can't reproduce it.

[GJSchaller]

Some more observations / details:

It's random what pages cause the error. A moment ago, after being idle for a while, I went to browse our forums, and was prompted by Joomla to log back in. I did so, was brought to the homepage successfully (which displayed content only visible to logged in members). When I then clicked on the menu for Kunena Forums, I got the 403. Logging out, and back in again, fixed the issue.

I noticed that when I got the error, the URL was for the Login page - not the page I was trying to reach. I seemed to be in an odd state where I was semi-logged in - I could see some things (Menu items) as if I was logged, but not others (such as the output I mentioned above).

We're using JMapMyLDAP to authenticate back to our Windows Domain, if it matters. Registration is off.

[jcalvert]

Can you produce the 403 error by doing steps 3-7 shown at the first post of this topic, on your Joomla site?

[GJSchaller]

I opened up my site in Firefox, which is set to be "clean" (no history, cookies, etc.) on launch. I created a test page, and did the round of edits, from 1 to 9, twice - no problems.

I swapped to Chrome, and went to edit the same article. I immediately ran into the issue.

The URL is not the login URL, as I noted before. It is:

https://joomla.khronos.com/help/sandbox ... cuaHRtbA==

(This is a closed site, you will not be able to log in.)

Screenshot of error attached.

[GJSchaller]

Other hints:

I tried editing another article, and did not have a problem. When I went back to the test article, I still got the error.

I logged into the Admin area, and verified it was not checked out.

I cleared the cache from within Joomla. Even though I do not have caching enabled (small site), I noticed 2 entries for JEvents. I cleared the cache, and went back to try to edit the article again - this time, it let me.

[GJSchaller]

I can reproduce this on the Mac as well as Windows - in Chrome, the issue occurs. In FF, it does not seem to. It is replicable in IE.

[jcalvert]

I would like to provide you w/ access to my proxy server, to see if that eliminates the problem. However, I think we should work w/ Firefox. Please retest edits 1-9 w/ current vers Firefox... it should fail.

[GJSchaller]

Same results... I did 20 edits in a row in FF, and no issues. I make one edit in IE, and it immediately fails on the next attempt to edit.

I'll check with my other users to see which browser they are using.

[jcalvert]

Does IE have the ability to configure an HTTP proxy?

If so and you'd like to do your IE test through my proxy server, let me know. I will send you the server details via private message. Please also send me your IP so that I can allow you access through my firewall.

best,
JC

[GJSchaller]

Yes, IE does allow for a proxy. Go ahead and send the details, and I'll send you my IP.

[kentmorrison]

HAS ANYONE found a reason for, or a solution to this pain in the ass error:

You are not permitted to use that link to directly access that page (#569).


?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

this is getting really REALLY old...

Anyone?

[jcalvert]

Please try the test at the beginning of this topic, on the Joomla 2.5 demo site. Login as demo, demo. Let us know what your results are.

thanks,
JC

[GJSchaller]

Hi JC, was there any resolution or progress to this? After the attempted testing / feedback, we're still having the same issue here on our corporate website.

[jcalvert]

Sorry, i don't have anything new to report. Debugging this would take a lot of time, and I simply can't devote so much non-paid time to this. But I was seriously thinking about taking a collection or something so that we can get this resolved... maybe form a team to take it on. I'm surprised none of the developers are looking at this. The bug report is just sitting there.

[jcalvert]

Can anyone confirm still seeing this error with the current version of Joomla 2.5 ?

thanks,
JC

[GJSchaller]

I'm still seeing it on 2.5.13, unfortunately.

[brononi]

I'm getting the same issue with Joomla 3, after moving my domain...

Before, everything was working fine, but once i moved my domain (server remains the same), i'm getting this error?
Firefow is working, chrome is giving issues.

Can it be something to do with the return code?

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.../component/content/?view=form&layout=edit&a_id=25&return=aHR0cDovL3d3dy52b2NtZXJlbGJla2UuYmUv

[jcalvert]

What do you mean you moved your domain (but server remains the same)?

There is a tracker item for this bug:
http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... 00&start=0

no evidence yet of any link to the return code.

JC

[brononi]

Before, my domain was something like http://myprovider/~mydomain (=cpanel).
And now, once the domain is transfered, it's http://mydomain.

Reason was that i developped everything before i move the domain to this.

[jcalvert]

Ah, you didn't move your domain or website... you set the DNS to point to your provider's nameservers.

What you found may be a good clue.

Can you do some more testing to verify this? You can still access the site at http://yourprovider/~yourdomain. Test by repeatedly editing the same article.

thanks,
JC

[brononi]

In the meantime, I got it working.

I must change the .htaccess in order to have the website running.
So I can't use both web url's. It's either domain.org or provider.org/~domainuser.


After changing my .htaccess, I did a general check and cleared all cache in joomla.
And it seems to work.
Let's hope it stays this way...


my .htaccess (need to clean it out, i know):

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Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} base64_encode[^(]*\([^)]*\) [OR]
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (<|%3C)([^s]*s)+cript.*(>|%3E) [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} GLOBALS(=|\[|\%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) [OR]
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} _REQUEST(=|\[|\%[0-9A-Z]{0,2})


RewriteRule .* index.php [F]
RewriteRule .* - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/index\.php
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} /component/|(/[^.]*|\.(php|html?|feed|pdf|vcf|raw))$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule .* index.php [L]

[GJSchaller]

This might help - maybe it's an add-on that's causing it?

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Plugins :: SITE :: Search - JEvents (3.1.7) | plg_search_kunena (3.0.1) | plg_search_newsfeeds (2.5.0) | plg_search_content (2.5.0) | plg_search_weblinks (2.5.0) | plg_search_contacts (2.5.0) | plg_search_categories (2.5.0) | Search - Tags (1.0.1) | PLG_JMONITORING_AKEEBABACKUP_T (1.0) | plg_captcha_recaptcha (2.5.0) | plg_kunena_joomla (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_gravatar (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_kunena (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_community (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_alphauserpoints (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_comprofiler (3.0.1) | plg_kunena_uddeim (3.0.1) | plg_finder_jevents (3.1.7) | plg_finder_newsfeeds (2.5.0) | plg_finder_content (2.5.0) | plg_finder_weblinks (2.5.0) | plg_finder_contacts (2.5.0) | plg_finder_categories (2.5.0) | PLG_EDITORS-XTD_CONTENTTEMPLAT (4.6.1FREE) | plg_editors-xtd_pagebreak (2.5.0) | plg_editors-xtd_readmore (2.5.0) | Button - Sourcerer (4.2.0FREE) | plg_editors-xtd_article (2.5.0) | Button - Versioning (Version:1.101) | PLG_EDITORS-XTD_TABS (3.2.5FREE) | plg_editors-xtd_image (2.5.0) | plg_content_joomla (2.5.0) | Content - Version (Version:1.101) | fr-FR NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | GJFields - a set of additional (1.0.27) | pt-BR NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | es-ES NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | cs-CZ NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | ru-RU NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | en-GB NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | it-IT NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | lt-LT NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | de-DE NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | bg-BG NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | sl-SI NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | pl-PL NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | sv-SE NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | tr-TR NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | nl-NL NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | da-DK NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | sk-SK NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | uk-UA NotifyArticleSubmit lang (2013-08-14 19) | PLG_CONTENT_NOTIFYARTICLESUBMI (2.5.0) | plg_content_emailcloak (2.5.0) | plg_content_vote (2.5.0) | plg_content_finder (2.5.0) | plg_content_pagenavigation (2.5.0) | plg_content_geshi (2.5.0) | plg_content_kunenadiscuss (3.0.1) | PLG_EASYKEYWORDSITEMAP (2.5-4) | PLG_CONTENT_SECTIONLIST (0. | PLG_CONTENT_EASYTAGCLOUD (2.4) | Content - SJL All Weblinks (4.0.7) | AllVideos (by JoomlaWorks) (4.5.0) | AllVideos (by JoomlaWorks) (4.5.0) | plg_content_pagebreak (2.5.0) | plg_content_loadmodule (2.5.0) | plg_content_autotoc (0.16-J1.6+) | Content - Tags (1.0.0) | plg_editors_tinymce (3.5.4.1) | PLG_AOEDITOR_TITLE (1.0.6) | plg_editors_jce (2.3.3.2) | plg_editors_codemirror (1.0) | plg_user_joomla (2.5.0) | plg_user_jmapmyldap (1.0.6) | plg_user_profile (2.5.0) | plg_user_contactcreator (2.5.0) | plg_sso_http (1.0.5) | plg_quickicon_joomlaupdate (2.5.0) | plg_quickicon_kunena (3.0.1) | plg_quickicon_extensionupdate (2.5.0) | plg_quickicon_jcefilebrowser (2.3.3.2) | plg_authentication_joomla (2.5.0) | plg_authentication_jmapmyldap (1.0.7) | plg_authentication_gmail (2.5.0) | plg_authentication_ldap (2.5.0) | plg_extension_joomla (2.5.0) | plg_system_jch_optimize (2.1.1) | ZOO (2.5.17) | K2 (2.5.5) | JA Comment (2.5.0) | Community Builder (1. | Google Libraries API (unknown) | YT Warp Theme Framework (6.1.6) | Widgetkit (1.0.5) | plg_system_cdscriptegrator (2.5.x.2.3.0) | plg_system_p3p (2.5.0) | PLG_SYSTEM_ADVANCEDMODULES (4.7.1FREE) | plg_system_remember (2.5.0) | plg_system_redirect (2.5.0) | plg_system_kunena (3.0.1) | plg_system_cache (2.5.0) | PLG_SYSTEM_CONTENTTEMPLATER (4.6.1FREE) | PLG_SYSTEM_NNFRAMEWORK (13.8.5) | plg_system_languagecode (2.5.0) | plg_system_jssomysite (1.0.5) | plg_system_log (2.5.0) | PLG_SYSTEM_SOURCERER (4.2.0FREE) | System - JCE MediaBox (1.1.10) | Abivia.net SuperTable Plugin (1.6.0) | plg_system_sef (2.5.0) | plg_system_debug (2.5.0) | PLG_SYSTEM_ADMINBARDOCKER (2.4.1) | Tapatalk Kunena Plugin (kn30_1.0.0) | System - Admin Tools (2.5.6) | plg_system_languagefilter (2.5.0) | plg_system_logout (2.5.0) | System - [zendesk] Dropbox for J (2.0) | PLG_SYSTEM_TABS (3.2.5FREE) | plg_system_highlight (2.5.0) |

Templates :: SITE :: atomic (2.5.0) | beez5 (2.5.0) | beez_20 (2.5.0) | Khronos - 2 Column (Conditiona (1.0.0) |
Templates :: ADMIN :: hathor (2.5.0) | bluestork (2.5.0) |