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something I have found useful for pasting text into articles

Post by ThomasRH » Fri May 27, 2011 3:53 pm

I use Joomla to publish articles I have written. I have had endless problems, as word processors add code that is not necessary in Joomla. Getting rid of the code is very time consuming even using the tools given in JCE and the like. I have found a way around this that may be useful to others.

I have a mac and have used MS Word for mac and Neo Office for mac. Both have the same problems of adding code. In addition, neither allow direct access to the code for editing. For years I had a PC and have been a loyal fan of Word Perfect. Word Perfect, which only runs in Windows, does allow direct editing of its codes (Reveal Codes). But there is something else that is even more useful for me now that I am using Joomla. When you go to paste something into a WP doc there are two options, one to paste without formatting (which I don't need) and one to paste without code. You can copy text from Word or Neo-Office or from a web site and paste it into a WP doc and there is no code except paragraph.

So what I have been doing is writing my articles in whatever word processor is convenient. Then I copy it and paste it into WP without code. Then I copy the WP article and paste it into the Joomla article, and it appears there without any code.

So far this has worked and has saved me hours of time. Hope it is helpful for someone else. By the way, there is a version of WP that costs about $60 the last time I checked.

 
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Fri May 27, 2011 5:57 pm

Hi ThomasRH,

Great advice! :)

You can also do this by pasting into a notepad (or another text editor) and it will strip all the code and leave just the text.

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Empowermom » Sat May 28, 2011 11:51 am

Copy content. Paste content into article.

Right Click, Select ALL.
Click REMOVE FORMATTING icon. (See attached picture)

Format headings, paragraphs, etc. as needed and save.
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Sun May 29, 2011 5:43 pm

Great job, Carol! I never thought of doing it that way :)

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:19 am

Tinymce and JCE both have paste options that remove the formatting from MSword etc. Just click the dropdown box by the paste icon.
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:03 pm

Hi Webdongle,

Yes, those are very useful tools!

I think he just meant it's a bit time consuming doing that way when you have a lot of articles to do:
ThomasRH wrote:Getting rid of the code is very time consuming even using the tools given in JCE and the like.


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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by brian » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:28 pm

How is it time consuming to paste into JCE using the designated button. Thats what its there for. Or am I missing something.
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:38 pm

Maybe millesecond consuming would be a better phrase :) *

I find it easier using keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in notepad++ and then paste it in the WYSIWYG editor, than to use my mouse to find the paste button, MS word dropdown menu item, paste, update, etc. It just provides a faster overall workflow for me, but it's probably different for others. *

I tested out the JCE paste button and it's relatively equally fast and probably depends on the person as to which is faster. When I use the keyboard short cuts it becomes more mechanical and I don't have to "think" as much and so I'm less likely to slow down. *

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Webdongle » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:34 am

So you copy/paste into Notepad then copy/paste into the Article ?
So you copy/paste twice for each Article ... yes ... doing the job twice per Article instead of once per Article. I can see how that saves time and effort :laugh:
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by jtzako » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:30 pm

The problem is, what if you have formatting you want to keep? Like Bolds, indents, Tables etc. If you want to keep those you cant do plain text.

Some of my editors complain that they cant do direct Pastes from MS word and keep the format the same, even if they do NOT use plain text paste.

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Webdongle » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:42 pm

jtzako wrote:The problem is, what if you have formatting you want to keep? Like Bolds, indents, Tables etc. ....
Then you learn to do it correctly in the first place i.e within the default editor in Joomla and with css.

Or do a botch job by putting it in an html file and link to it with Menu Item type 'Wrapper'
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by leolam » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:01 am

Webdongle wrote:Or do a botch job by putting it in an html file and link to it with Menu Item type 'Wrapper'
With all respect you think that is good idea/advise?

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by nicmehr » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:29 pm

Hi ThomasRH,

Great advice! :)
its very usefull

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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:56 am

Webdongle wrote:instead of once per Article.
You've oversimplified it and missed a few steps, however you built a very nice straw man though :)
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Webdongle » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:35 pm

No I did not miss a step nor over simplify.

Copying from MSword then pasting into an Article )using the correct paste option from the dropdown box) is on copy/paste per Article. Copy/paste to Notepad then copy/paste to an Article is doing the same job twice. Using keyboard short cuts is all well and good but has it's flaws. e.g. You have to use the mouse to open an Article edit screen. Ctrl+V does not always work in the Article Edit screen. You need to use the mouse to navigate the MSword documents.

Your method is your method and if you wish to use it that way fine. But trying to claim that copy/pasting into Notepad then into an Article is not doing it twice makes no sense at all.
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Re: something I have found useful for pasting text into arti

Post by Nick Savov » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:00 pm

Even in your initial comment you said,
Webdongle wrote:Just click the dropdown box by the paste icon.
. Why? Because that's a step of it's own. Finding the paste from a word document button takes relatively as much time as the rest of it, so it can safely be counted as, at the least, a step of it's own.

Ctrl+C from word, navigate to paste area using button and dropdown, ctrl+p.

The reason why I say "at the least" is because nailing that little paste button (not just the paste button but the little arrow which is smaller than the paste button) and the subsequent paste as plain text drop down is hard to do going fast. So you have to slow down, hit the button, slow down even more, and hit the drop down item. Ever gone too fast fast and missed the button? While nailing the buttons may not add extra "steps" to the equation it certainly does add extra time. Keep in mind that we're talking about numerous articles and not just one, and in my experience, I make a lot more mistakes trying to go the button route. That may not be the case for everyone. Even without mistakes though, I would still say, overall, the workflow is faster for me using the notepad rather than the buttons (at least it certainly feels like it...never really timed it).

Yes, keyboard short cuts do have flaws; as you mentioned the double copy and paste is 1 and using your mouse for the editor is another, however the mouse is relatively minor. It's a quick 1 click anywhere in the text area (assuming the article is blank), so you don't really have to slow down much at all.

I wasn't trying to claim that it is or isn't as much work one way or another (perhaps you should re-read my previous comments). I was saying you were oversimplifying it, which you were.

Lastly, this is a silly little conversation that's taking up more time than it should and I'm really trying to get away from debating trivial matters :) Perhaps a compromise, use mass/quick content as much as possible. Do they strip the MSword formatting on pasting directly?

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