Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

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Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by rockart » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:10 am

I want to update Joomla ( 2.5.9 ) to the latest version.

To do so I need to back up Joomla in case doing the Joomla update breaks something, old extension/plugins…

My Akeeba Backup version is also out of date ( Akeeba Backup Core 4.1.2 (2015-02-03) )
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Is his how I should proceed?

1 Update Akeeba using - the latest version or should I be using a older version - I read the old extension installer cannot install the latest Akeeba??

[ I backed up Joomla ( 2.5.9 ) with the Akeeba backup that is already installed. (Akeeba Backup Core 4.1.2 (2015-02-03) ) so, also out of date

[ https://www.akeebabackup.com/documentat ... pdate.html ]

2 Then backup Joomla

3 Then update Joomla (to latest version)

4 Then update Akeeba (to latest version)

5 Then backup Joomla (again) with latest version of Akeeba..?


Or can it be simpler than this?

Asking Akeeba even a basic question means having to subscribe (pay for the Professional version).


[ Another approach - Can I backup my old version of Joomla with the latest version of Akeeba?

It doesn’t look like it - https://www.akeebabackup.com/compatibility.html
but I am not sure]

Help is appreciated. :)

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by creativesights4 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:12 am

That's pretty much it.
I just recently did this myself and did the following steps:

1. Run back up of site currently with your current version of Akeeba backup

2. Update Joomla!

3. You will get to a certain version of Joomla!(about 3.0.1) where you will then have to uninstall your current version of Akeeba then reinstall the latest version

Also you may want to verify your php version is at least at 5.6.0 or higher before you start ;)

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by Webdongle » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:47 am

Use Akeeba that is for your version of Joomla
Also make a backup of your database

Then see https://docs.joomla.org/Joomla_2.5_to_3 ... _Migration

If no avail

Recover by using your backup and uninstall all non J3 compatible 3rd party extensions
  • Create a new database
  • Delete the files
  • Install J2.5.9 to the new database
  • Edit the configuration.php to connect to your original database
  • Update to J2.5.28
You have now updated your database using Joomla files without 3rd party extension files interfering.

Next you need to update your database to Joomla 3.1 and update the Joomla update component (Extensions >>> Manage >>> update) before using the Joomla update component to 3.2.6
Your original database is now up to date !!!

  • Create another new database
  • Delete the files and install J3.2. to the new empty database
  • Install your 3rd party extensions
You now have Joomla 3.6.2 files and compatible 3rd party extension files. All you need to do now is edit the configuration.php to connect to your original (updated) database
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results": Albert Einstein

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by rockart » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:54 pm

Thank you creativesights4

I can follow this.


Thank you Webdongle
Can I follow what creativesights4 suggested and not be in trouble?
I am afraid your info about updating the database is a bit beyond my expertise.

I understood the info in Akeeba Backup saying that its backup includes the database.
Is this correct?

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by creativesights4 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:23 pm

Akeeba does backup your database however, you can also go through phpMyAdmin to export it as well.

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by Per Yngve Berg » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:29 pm

Update to 2.5.28 before changeing php version.

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Re: Backup old Joomla with new Akeeba?

Post by Webdongle » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:40 pm

rockart wrote:...
Thank you Webdongle
Can I follow what creativesights4 suggested and not be in trouble?
I am afraid your info about updating the database is a bit beyond my expertise.
...
If you follow that then you will break your site

You have the expertise to
  • Create databases
  • Check which 3rd party extensions are compatible with J3
    • Uninstall the ones that aren't
  • Install Joomla
  • Edit the configuration.php to connect to the desired database
  • Update Joomla
  • Use Extensions >>> Manage >>> update and update a Component (namely the Joomla! update Component)
It is not complicated but it is (in that it requires several steps) complex.

The process is that :

You install Joomla so that you can connect Joomla files (without 3rd party files) to your database. That allows you to update the database without non compatible 3rd party files interfering.

You install another Joomla so that you can install up to date compatible 3rd party extensions. That gives you the Joomla and compatible 3rd party extension files that you need to put/get/display the data to/from your database.

When you have updated your database using only Joomla files and created new Joomla/3rd party files ... all you need to do is marry them by editing the configuration.php.


It's a bit like the Brahman's tower but the techniques used are simple and it works. So long as you have your database then you have your site.
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results": Albert Einstein


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