Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

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Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by a2zcs » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:30 pm

Since upgrading to 3.9 the ability to sort a category blog in a different manner than the global settings seems to have stopped working.

Global Settings set to "Most recent first"
Changed the Category Blog Layout to Article Order for article sorting and it has no effect, I can change it to anything and it has no affect on the actual ordering.

Is there something I'm missing in the new version?

 
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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by Webdongle » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:06 am

Test with Protostar as default Template.
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https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by a2zcs » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:51 pm

Changed the template to Protostar as suggested and it had no effect. A change to 'Alphabetical' for example didn't change the sort order at all as an example.
It is a live site, so I only changed the template for one category blog to test, fyi.

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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by Webdongle » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:34 pm

Just tested
Article order ... matches the order in Components >>> Articles
Most recent first ... is the same order as Components >>> Articles (unless you alter the position of Articles in the list) because the most recent Articles are saved to the top of the list.

Article reverse order ... is probably the setting you require.
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https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by a2zcs » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:18 pm

Webdongle, thanks. I do know how that all works. I've designed and maintain over a hundred joomla sites so I've got the whole how to sort articles down pretty good. Just with this one, nothing I try works save changing the creation date of each article to go where I need it to go.

It is as if the menu controled sorting selection can't overide the Global Option sorting selection

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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:37 pm

a2zcs wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:18 pm
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It is as if the menu controled sorting selection can't overide the Global Option sorting selection
It does work because I tested on my site. You are missing something.

btw
If (in Content >>> Articles manage screen) you click the up/down triangles then you can use drag and drop to rearrange the Article order.
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https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by Jaydot » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:43 pm

You do know that there are (and always were) three places where you can change article options?
  • in Global Configuration for articles,
  • in the options for each article individually,
  • in the menu-item settings.
The menu-item setting will take precedence (unless you specify "use article options").
The fact that an opinion is widely held is no evidence whatsoever that it is not utterly absurd.
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Re: Option to order Articles by "Article Order" does not work

Post by RAINFIRE » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:39 am

a2zcs wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:30 pm
Since upgrading to 3.9 the ability to sort a category blog in a different manner than the global settings seems to have stopped working . . . Is there something I'm missing in the new version?
Did you find the answer to this? I'm on the latest Joomla and am using the Protostar template. Same issues and I looked into all the answers provided in this thread.

 

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