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Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:19 am

Hi folks, i finnaly tried 3.8.1 and got a pageload speed of 10 sec instead of 4 sec (page load of 20 sec on 3.8.0) on non cached page, will check cpu & database load in a few hour, we have 15k articles, just let me know what you need to investigate,

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:30 am

I'll rollback to 3.7.5
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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:42 am

roll'back is ok, in fact the page time speed is 4x in 3.8.0 and 2x in 3.8.1
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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby duongtsurumi » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:28 am

Your web page is 6 seconds

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:53 am

perhaps but that not the 20 sec of 3.8.0 or 3.8.1
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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby kbgorman » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:17 pm

I have the same experience with my large site - I restored back to 3.7.5 because of the speed difference. My smaller sites don't seem to have the issue as much. I'm hoping that future updates will be improved.

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:54 pm

hi kbgorman, yes i think that the issue is on the number of article, if you have a bug on article on a little blog (akka 1000 article) it will be not seen but the same bug x 15.000 article, that make an huge impact, but no one of the joomla communitie seem care of that..... : (
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby Folamour » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:27 am

Ribo how many article do you have on your site ?
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby ribo » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:08 am

Folamour wrote:Ribo how many article do you have on your site ?

The most in a joomla website 100+ why?
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby Folamour » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:37 am

you have not enougth article so saw the 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 performance issue we have 15k article and other people facing the issue as also a lot of article,
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby ribo » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:43 am

Folamour wrote:you have not enougth article so saw the 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 performance issue we have 15k article and other people facing the issue as also a lot of article,
If you have so many articles and you have performance issue it s good to have your own server with a very good configuration(for example a good vps to have the cpu and the ram only for your sites and not in a shared hosting like i guess you are now, with thousands websites to eat the cpu and the ram of the server) The same problem you will have and with wordpress with so many articles in shared hosting account.
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby Folamour » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:06 pm

we do have a vps ; )))) All work fine in 3.7.5, the update to 3.8.0 or 3.8.1 push the server from 6sec page load up to 12 sec, and heavy cpu usage, so we rolled back, as other... but no one at joomla team take care of that issue because there is not a lot of site with such number of article.
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby mbabker » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:33 pm

Have you looked at the issue tracker to see if there are any performance related issues filed, or filed an issue with data to help fix it? Performance issues won't get fixed out-of-the-blue without issues and solid data being reported.
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Re: 3.8 update breaks the site

Postby Folamour » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:40 pm

hi mbabker i'm sorry i'm not familiar with joomla issue tracker any url ? i'm ready to create an account and help, i've proposed a super admin account to joomla team but they don't replied,

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby leolam » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:35 pm

Once again the question was asked: How many Joomla articles you have enabled? Even with limited English language skills this should not be hard to answer?

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:59 pm

leo all our article (14147) is enabled (and published), we are a blog and also an archive, we are online since 2009

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Per Yngve Berg » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:12 pm

How many articles is in one category and how many archived? Archived articles show in a category list/blog on 3.8.1. See this topic.

https://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=728&t=956236

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:26 pm

hi Per Yngve berg, we have 39 categories (including sub category) and from 1 article per category up to 3834 for main categories, we did not use archive as the blog himself is an whole archive of actuality and all article must be reached from google,

you can take a look here : https://www.Crashdebug.fr

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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby Folamour » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm

any update ?
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Re: Joomla 3.8.1 site slower 10 sec instead 4 sec pageload

Postby muddauber » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:07 am

Folamour, I see you are using .png for your opening slideshow. I saved the files as jpg and reduced
the sizes 16%, also consider enabling Gzip.


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