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Joomla + Litespeed

Post by dattard » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:52 am

Hi all,

does anybody run Joomla on LiteSpeed?

I've bought this a while ago and in terms of "pure performance" LiteSpeed seems to be great. However, I've been struggling to get it up and running nicely.

I seem to keep encountering bugs that break the HTML output.

If anybody has experience with a LiteSpeed set up, it would be great to have a bit of a discussion about it.

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Re: Joomla + Litespeed

Post by pe7er » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:25 am

dattard wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:52 am
does anybody run Joomla on LiteSpeed?
I only know it by name. I mostly use Nginx or Apache.
There are people who use LiteSpeed web server for Joomla sites,
see viewtopic.php?t=967537

LiteSpeed offers "LiteSpeed Cache for Joomla" https://www.litespeedtech.com/products/ ... celeration
so they have knowledge there how to best set-up that web server for Joomla.
I would try their forum / wiki: https://www.litespeedtech.com/support
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Re: Joomla + Litespeed

Post by AMurray » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:10 am

I would add that Lite Speed is not on the list of supported web servers under the system requirements for Joomla, which means while it may work, it probably hasn't been widely tested otherwise I'd expect to see it on the system requirements list.
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Re: Joomla + Litespeed

Post by toivo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:56 am

Rochen uses LiteSpeed as web server, with litespeed WebServer to PHP Interface. Haven't had any issues after moving a few months ago.
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Re: Joomla + Litespeed

Post by dattard » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:36 am

I used to use NGinx + Apache, but Litespeed is faster and is a drop-in replacement for Apache so it's dead easy to set up.

I do use the LiteSpeed cache plugin and it's what throws most of the problems. Some of my plugins, particularly the ones from Tassos end up breaking at a certain point and it literally throws such a bad error it literally stops rendering and even break the W3C validation which means the site wouldn't even be crawled well.

I have had open cases with them and they actually did fix some issues I highlighted, so hopefully that should make it better for other users going forward :-)

Still, it has been a bit of struggle ... I even had some issues with compression initially.

I get that LiteSpeed isn't supported, but it does work mostly ... even MariaDB is not supported, but I run my Joomla site on it ... no issues whatsoever.

@toivo - what do you mean exactly by LiteSpeed Webserver to PHP interface?

The reality is I have been trying to push performance to its limits and its been a really hard job. I've got sh404SEF and it's so intrinsically tied to my site that I'm afraid of swapping it out, even though I know it's a performance hog. Any ideas here would be really welcome.

Then getting Joomla to perform well on PageSpeed Insights and stuff like that has been a nightmare of epic proportions. I kept it quite lean, but still, even the Joomlart template is so heavy I had to try stripping it of all excess stuff to try to get it to perform nicely ... and it's been quite a struggle.

Between the JS built-in by Joomla, the JS from the template (Bootstrap framework), and the JS from some necessary plugins and it gets really hard to make it perform well without breaking it. I literally removed half the CSS manually from it to make it as lean as possible...

JCH Optimize is not an option, in my situation, it increases the server response time by about half a second which would literally kill the site.

I'd love to hear guys who use a premium template that has decent performance and is not too heavy.

This is my current stack:

InMotion Hosting 3000 VPS
LiteSpeed on MariaDB
PHP 7.3.19 with Zend OpCache (tried 7.4, but there are some plugins which are not compatible)
Joomlart Template stripped to necessary only CSS
Simple HTML Minifier
MooTools Disabled
Defer Scripts + ScriptsDown
LazyLoad plugin
HTTP2 Push Plugin
Page Cache or LiteSpeed Page Cache (LiteSpeed is faster when it's working)
StackPath CDN


(All unnecessary plugins have been disabled but I do have other stuff I need).
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Re: Joomla + Litespeed

Post by toivo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:37 am

dattard wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:36 am
@toivo - what do you mean exactly by LiteSpeed Webserver to PHP interface?
The System Information page presents it like this but I have not looked under the bonnet:
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