"Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

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"Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by cjoomdev » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:57 pm

Hello,

The Joomla 4 Alpha 11 Release suggest that we can run and test updates but it doesn't seem to be possible using com_joomlaupdate.

https://developer.joomla.org/news/790-j ... ha-11.html

Does anyone know how this would work?

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by bruno28 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:52 am

cjoomdev wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:57 pm
Hello,

The Joomla 4 Alpha 11 Release suggest that we can run and test updates but it doesn't seem to be possible using com_joomlaupdate.

https://developer.joomla.org/news/790-j ... ha-11.html

Does anyone know how this would work?


Hello cjoomdev

In alpha release you can't use joomla update, you have to dowload the new release and replace the old one, see :

imanickam wrote:
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Review of the topic viewtopic.php?f=803&t=973443 would be of help.
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Post by cjoomdev » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 pm

I'll give it a try.

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Post by cjoomdev » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:23 pm

However the top just suggests about updates within Joomla 4. I am looking for updating 3.9.x to 4.x.

Still digging.

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by bruno28 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:33 pm

cjoomdev wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:23 pm
However the top just suggests about updates within Joomla 4. I am looking for updating 3.9.x to 4.x.

Still digging.
I think it can't be done actually as long as joomla 4 is in alpha release
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Post by cjoomdev » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:34 pm

It could very well be true but the release notice reads otherwise.

https://developer.joomla.org/news/790-j ... ha-11.html

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by AMurray » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:48 am

OK I see the article referred to says you can update 3.9.11. to 4.0 AlphaXX (whichever alpha release it might be).
Joomla 4 is on the horizon … Alpha 11 wrote:
Joomla 4 Alpha 11 contains:

..... Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher. Whilst there are still error messages shown during the upgrade the process now functionally works........
Since Alpha12 is now out (refer to nightly builds page), I would suggest then you need to put in the custom URL in the Joomla Update component (Options) - choose "Custom URL" from the Update Channel drop-down box, and paste in the relevant URL for the alpha nightly build. e.g. for Alpha12, the URL is https://update.joomla.org/core/nightlie ... r_list.xml -

As screenshot shows, Joomla update recognises the URL and gives the option to update to 4.0_Alpha12
3911_to_40alpha12.PNG
I tried this on the "testing" channel, but nothing came up on that.
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Post by cjoomdev » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:47 pm

Thank YOU! I'll give it a try when I can.

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Post by cjoomdev » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:28 pm

After running the update. We have the following error.
Error: Unknown asset "template.atum.ltr": Call to undefined method Joomla\CMS\Application\AdministratorApplication::isAdmin()
So, the update fails as of right now and it's probably because it's Alpha 12 which is more of a development version.

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Post by sozzled » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:44 am

Hmm ... well, @cjoomdev is right there: ATM the migrate/upgrade from J! 3.9.11 to J! 4.0-dev is not seamless. I made one attempt to migrate (and it was unsuccessful) and I won't be attempting this again for a while.

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Table 'xxxxx_workflow_associations' doesn't exist.
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Templates :: ADMIN :: atum (1.0) ? |
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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by sozzled » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:10 pm

It looks like the Workflows component is not installed by the upgrade. Therefore, my conclusion is that J! 3.9.11 cannot be upgraded to J! 4 Alpha "n" at this time.
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Post by sozzled » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:33 am

Has anyone actually migrated a J! 3.9.11 website to J! 4? Successfully?

If I haven't heard from anyone via the forum within a week then I'll conclude that it's a myth.
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Post by sozzled » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:13 am

After waiting a week to hear from anyone else who has successfully upgraded from J! 3.9.11 to J! 4.0 (alpha-12) and no-one has answered, this is a myth. It's not, yet, possible.
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Post by Aris Ntatsis » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:30 pm

sozzled wrote:
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Has anyone actually migrated a J! 3.9.11 website to J! 4? Successfully?

If I haven't heard from anyone via the forum within a week then I'll conclude that it's a myth.
No success here.
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Post by sozzled » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:47 pm

Thank you, @Aris, for confirming this.
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Post by Aris Ntatsis » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:57 pm

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Lippy13 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:25 am

I've been able to upgrade a 3.9.11 site to today's nightly via the Joomla Update component by uploading the full package to it. The only hiccup I experienced was that half of the files and folders in /administrator/com_config were missing which caused part of the backend to not function. Manually adding the missing files from the full package fixed the issue and so far everything seems to be working. It removed com_search (which I know is disappearing in favour of com_finder), but the various extensions associated with it are still listed in the extension manager.

I haven't tried the live update option, but I'll give that a look tomorrow when I've got more time.

Currently running XAMPP 7.3.5-1 on Windows 10.

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by cjoomdev » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:36 pm

Thanks for the update! I'll give it another try.

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:14 pm

To update a 3.9 to 4.0 Alpha 11 or current nightly build you have to use the "Upload & Update" feature of the Joomla Update Component:
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There you can upload and install the full package zip of a 4.0-Alpha-11 or a 4.0 nightly build.

You will be asked for your super admin credentials in a special login screen.

During the update procedure it will happen that you see some warning message about template not found (or template style or similar, don't remember precisely now). At the end you will get the 4.0 admin login page.

When having logged in to the backend, you will see the erro message about missing template again one time, but as soon as you navigate around in backend it will have gone and not come back.

On PostgreSQL there are some database errors shown in Extensions - Manage - Database, and there might be other stuff still to be fixed for PostgreSQL.

But MySQL lower than 8 should work fine with the usual MySQL settings.

Only on MySQL 8 you might get in some situations errors about invalid datetime values '0000-00-00 00:00:00'. These are not related to MySQL 8, they are also a problem on MySQL 5.7, but because the default installation of MySQL 8 uses different options than the previous versions, they become more visible. As far as I know people are working on that and will fix it before beta.
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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:19 pm

P.S.: Yes, com_search has been removed, see section "What’s the difference between Alpha 9 and Alpha 10?" here: https://developer.joomla.org/news/786-j ... ha-10.html

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how?

Post by sozzled » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:25 pm

Richard67 wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:14 pm
To update a 3.9 to 4.0 Alpha 11 or current nightly build you have to use the "Upload & Update" feature of the Joomla Update Component ...
I tried it; it didn't work. I asked if anyone else has tried it; the answer is that it doesn't work.

I'm sorry to sound like I'm repeating myself, but saying that we can now update from J! 3.9.11 to J! 4.0 Alpha 12 is is repeating a myth because, until someone writes back to say that it works, it doesn't work. :pop
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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:50 pm

I've just tested again and updated a 3.9.11 (copy of my web site) to the nightly build from today, using the downloaded "Joomla_4.0.0-alpha12-dev-Development-Update_Package.zip" as I described above.
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Except that the admin login page is styled special at the first login to the backend, it is like I dexribed above.

In a quick test I could save article, user, navigated around without any error.
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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:52 pm

P.S.: I've just tested on a subdomain on same shared hosting where I host my website, same PHP config except of error reporting set to maximum. Previous tests I've made on a Ubuntu Virtual Machine here at home.

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:57 pm

P.S.: My description above had a mistake, I've corrected that: Of course you have to use the update package, not the full package. For the Alpha releases I haven't found any update package, only for the nightly build here: https://developer.joomla.org/nightly-builds.html

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:03 pm

So for me it works. Would be interesting to find out which differences betwen my site and the others cause that for others it doesn't work. My site is small and I don't use every feature so maybe that's the reason why it works for me? Some plugin not activated?

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Lippy13 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:26 pm

Sorry about being a day late on the follow up. I forgot I had something else planned at the time.

I've just tested using the live update tool. I had to first hack /libraries/joomla/database/driver/mysqli.php to get it to remove the '5.5.5-' prefix from the MariaDB version string it was reporting, in order for the install button to pop up after it detected today's Joomla nightly. Otherwise it was thinking MariaDB was below the minimum requirements (Joomla 4 currently requires at least MariaDB 10.1 - I'm using 10.1.40 for the record). I'd update XAMPP, but any version above what what I'm running (which began to use MariaDB 10.3) have been giving me issues so I've held back for the time being. It looks like PR 26079 will fix the version checking for the updater, but I only had the sense to look at the issue tracker after I had already finished the upgrade.

After that, the live update tool seems to have worked and I ended up with the same result as my earlier upload & install attempt. There's a few directories missing in /administrator/com_config that should be there, which I'll list below:

Controller
Helper
Model
View

Those need to be manually added to the installation because the upgrade forgets to add these. Otherwise the global configuration page doesn't work because the MVC for it is missing. Since I used the live update tool this time, I had to grab the missing files from the installation package. The files were already missing before I hit the clean up button.

My Joomla installation is mostly vanilla and currently just has a few articles and a blog page so nothing substantial. Hope this helps with the testing! :)

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Richard67 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:33 pm

Hmm, in my test these folders were correctly installed, and obsolete ones correctly removed, and global config works well.

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Re: "Joomla 4 can now be upgraded from Joomla 3.9 and higher." But how.

Post by Lippy13 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:56 am

I've a feeling the missing folders issue is something specific to Windows. In Joomla 3.9.11, those missing folders exist in com_config but in lowercase. I'm guessing directories not being case sensitive in Windows is having something to do with it.


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