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Mr. Wimpy
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Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by Mr. Wimpy » Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:16 pm

Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

What we do?
We change the order of articles.
In the backend the order looks good.

But when we refresh the frontend the order is not changed.
And when we refresh the backend the order is set back to what it was before we changed it.

And a bigger but: when we change the order after the BE refresh the order FE & BE is changed. Only to return to the above behaviour after 1 or 2 order changes.


So far we only noticed it on the featured page/frontpage.
We on 2 computers on different locations.

I tested it in Firefox and Safari with different users.

What could it be?
Regards,
Wim

PS:
Not sure if it relates to this issue:
I saw Allow url fopen: No
And I read that it should be Yes.
I'll look into fixing that.
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Re: Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by Mr. Wimpy » Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:40 am

UPDATE:
Just checked: Allow url fopen is set to On in cpanel.

Not sure why the FPA says 'No'.

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Allow_url_fopen is On, but not available!?!

Post by Mr. Wimpy » Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:54 am

Hey hey,

The FPA informs me that it was unable to check Joomla Version because SimpleXML or allow_url_fopen is not available, yet...

...FPA PHP Extensions ::Discovery does list SimpleXML.
The word 'or' may be important here.

...but also...
...the FPA PHP Enviroment::Discovery area,
...Joomla's System information, and
...cPanel...

...all say allow_url_fopen is On.

The FPA results is listed in this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=811&t=996915

If you need more info, let me know.

Regards,
Wim
Last edited by toivo on Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by Webdongle » Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:09 am

Check in Joomla php settings see what that says
Check for a local php
Check in .htaccess
http://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/
https://www.weblinksonline.co.uk/updating-joomla.html
"When I'm right no one remembers but when I'm wrong no one forgets".

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Re: Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by Mr. Wimpy » Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:26 pm

As stated here:
viewtopic.php?f=806&t=996954

Joomla, FPA PHP Envirement::Discovery and cPanel say allow_url_fopen is on.

Also the local php.ini says it's on.
.htaccess is the default J4 version with a small edit.
mod_expireStuff and commented out Options +followSymlinks

I have installed a clean J4 with simple data in another folder on the same server and it has the same ordering issue. This makes me think it's a server issue. I will contact the webhost.

Regards,
Wim

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Re: Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by Mr. Wimpy » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:50 am

UPDATE:
It seems it happens on all lists (including menu-items) and on different systems (including localhost).

I have created an item on the issue tracker.

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Re: Sometimes Joomla does not change the order of articles.

Post by trogladyte » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:38 pm

This sometimes happens with modules in the same position. Drag and drop in the backend and it doesn't change on the front.
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