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Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:25 am

Updating from J! 4.0 RC1 to J! 4.0 RC2. Found this database problem: "Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine". I have no idea about this table structure or what records it's supposed to contain (if any). Has anyone encountered this situation? Does anyone have a suggested solution or workaround?

The database error doesn't prevent the update. The database Update Structure tool doesn't fix it. Also shows a checked-out table (that can't be checked-in)
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by AMurray » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:58 am

sozzled wrote: I have no idea about this table structure or what records it's supposed to contain (if any)
I don't know if this answers what you're asking but.....that table would contain the customised HTML email messages for system communication messages such as those concerned with user registration, account activation, forgot password/username password and that sort of thing.

J4 allows you to customise those messages (a brand new component in the system for that), where previously in J3 you either had to find an extension that did that or edit the language file (or rather, create language override).

I've not seen any announcement about RC2 (usually timely announcements from @pe7er would show up in the forum) - although the Developer Network I see under Nightly Builds, "RC3-Dev" but under the "roadmap" RC2 is still indicated as "Planned" for 15 June.
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:16 am

Thanks, Andy.

Twitter, not to mention GitHub, are full of announcements from reputable sources about today's release of J! 4 RC2 (and J! 3.10-alpha7); this was also advertised on the roadmap. The formal announcement is here: https://www.joomla.org/announcements/re ... -here.html. BTW, you can't download J! 4 RC2 from the links in the announcement; if you want the full installation package, go to https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/re ... ackage.zip

As I wrote before, in my case the table "doesn't exist in engine" according to the error message. I don't know the structure of the table. I saw the error before I updated from J! 4 RC1 today; today was the first time I saw the error. The Pre-Update Check also confirmed this was a problem; it also says that Akeeba Backup has serious problems ... but we can ignore that ;)

The test site I'm using began its life with an early release of J! 4 beta; I had to trash it once before because of changes introduced in a later release of J! 4 beta which broke the site. The test site was updated from the last of the betas to J! 4 RC1 (without any problems until today) and then I updated it to J! 4 RC2.

I know that you can customise mail templates in J! 4. I haven't tested these features yet because the test site lives on Wampserver (hence, no email facility).

That's about as much information as I can provide. The test site has existed for about a year; I'm solely responsible for maintaining the AMP environment and, of course, the test site itself. Perhaps the database just screwed itself in a knot? I dunno. I can trash the site again; fortunately I haven't invested any time in writing articles or installing extensions except for Akeeba Backup and Akeeba Admin Tools. I can provide a FPA report, if it helps. I just wonder if anyone else has encountered this "Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine" phenomenon?
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine (FPA report)

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:23 am

Just for fun, here's the FPA report:
Forum Post Assistant (v1.6.2) : 16-Jun-2021 wrote:
Last PHP Error(s) Reported :: wrote:[09-Jun-2021 19:39:26 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'intl' (tried: c:/wamp64/bin/php/php7.4.6/ext/intl (The specified module could not be found.), c:/wamp64/bin/php/php7.4.6/ext/php_intl.dll (The specified module could not be found.)) in Unknown on line 0
Basic Environment :: wrote:Joomla! Instance :: Joomla! 4.0.0-rc2-Release Candidate (Mañana) 15-June-2021
Joomla! Configured :: Yes | Read-Only (444) |
Configuration Options :: Offline: false | SEF: true | SEF Suffix: false | SEF ReWrite: false | .htaccess/web.config: No | GZip: false | Cache: false | CacheTime: 15 | CacheHandler: file | CachePlatformPrefix: false | FTP Layer: false | Proxy: false | LiveSite: | Session lifetime: 15 | Session handler: database | Shared sessions: false | SSL: 0 | Error Reporting: maximum | Site Debug: false | Language Debug: false | Default Access: 1 | Unicode Slugs: false | dbConnection Type: mysqli | PHP Supports J! 4.0.0-rc2: Yes | Database Supports J! 4.0.0-rc2: Yes | Database Credentials Present: Password missing |

Host Configuration :: OS: Windows NT | OS Version: 6.3 | Technology: AMD64 | Web Server: Apache/2.4.41 (Win64) PHP/7.4.6 | Encoding: gzip, deflate | System TMP Writable: Yes | Free Disk Space : 409.06 GiB |

PHP Configuration :: Version: 7.4.6 | PHP API: apache2handler | Session Path Writable: Yes | Display Errors: 1 | Error Reporting: 32767 | Log Errors To: c:/wamp64/logs/php_error.log | Last Known Error: 16th June 2021 06:35:27. | Register Globals: | Magic Quotes: | Safe Mode: | Allow url fopen: 1 | Open Base: | Uploads: 1 | Max. Upload Size: 128M | Max. POST Size: 256M | Max. Input Time: 60 | Max. Execution Time: 120 | Memory Limit: 512M

Database Configuration :: Version: 5.5.5-10.4.10-MariaDB (Client:mysqlnd 7.4.6) | Database Size: 4.76 MiB | #of Tables with config prefix: 92 | #of other Tables: 0 | User Privileges : GRANT PROXY
Detailed Environment :: wrote:PHP Extensions :: Core (7.4.6) | bcmath (7.4.6) | calendar (7.4.6) | ctype (7.4.6) | date (7.4.6) | filter (7.4.6) | hash (7.4.6) | iconv (7.4.6) | json (7.4.6) | SPL (7.4.6) | pcre (7.4.6) | readline (7.4.6) | Reflection (7.4.6) | session (7.4.6) | standard (7.4.6) | mysqlnd (mysqlnd 7.4.6) | tokenizer (7.4.6) | zip (1.15.6) | zlib (7.4.6) | libxml (7.4.6) | dom (20031129) | PDO (7.4.6) | bz2 (7.4.6) | SimpleXML (7.4.6) | xml (7.4.6) | xmlreader (7.4.6) | xmlwriter (7.4.6) | apache2handler (7.4.6) | openssl (7.4.6) | curl (7.4.6) | dba (7.4.6) | com_dotnet (7.4.6) | fileinfo (7.4.6) | gd (7.4.6) | gettext (7.4.6) | gmp (7.4.6) | imap (7.4.6) | ldap (7.4.6) | mbstring (7.4.6) | exif (7.4.6) | mysqli (7.4.6) | odbc (7.4.6) | Phar (7.4.6) | pdo_mysql (7.4.6) | PDO_ODBC (7.4.6) | pdo_pgsql (7.4.6) | pdo_sqlite (7.4.6) | pgsql (7.4.6) | shmop (7.4.6) | snmp (7.4.6) | soap (7.4.6) | sockets (7.4.6) | sqlite3 (7.4.6) | Zend OPcache (7.4.6) | xdebug (2.9.5) | Zend Engine (3.4.0) |
Potential Missing Extensions ::

Switch User Environment :: PHP CGI: No | Server SU: No | PHP SU: No | Potential Ownership Issues: No

Apache Modules :: core | mod_win32 | mpm_winnt | http_core | mod_so | mod_access_compat | mod_actions | mod_alias | mod_allowmethods | mod_asis | mod_auth_basic | mod_auth_digest | mod_authn_core | mod_authn_file | mod_authz_core | mod_authz_groupfile | mod_authz_host | mod_authz_user | mod_autoindex | mod_cache | mod_cache_disk | mod_cgi | mod_dir | mod_env | mod_file_cache | mod_include | mod_isapi | mod_log_config | mod_mime | mod_negotiation | mod_rewrite | mod_setenvif | mod_userdir | mod_vhost_alias | mod_php7 | Apache/2.4.41 (Win64) PHP/7.4.6 |
Potential Missing Modules :: mod_expires | mod_deflate | mod_security | mod_evasive | mod_dosevasive | mod_ssl | mod_qos |
Folder Permissions :: wrote:Core Folders :: images/ (777) | components/ (777) | modules/ (777) | plugins/ (777) | language/ (777) | templates/ (777) | cache/ (777) | logs/ (---) | tmp/ (777) | administrator/components/ (777) | administrator/modules/ (777) | administrator/language/ (777) | administrator/templates/ (777) | administrator/logs/ (777) |

Elevated Permissions (First 10) :: administrator/ (777) | administrator/cache/ (777) | administrator/components/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/forms/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/services/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/src/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/src/Controller/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/src/Field/ (777) | administrator/components/com_actionlogs/src/Helper/ (777) |
Database Information :: wrote:Database statistics :: Uptime: 567815 | Threads: 7 | Questions: 47673 | Slow queries: 0 | Opens: 272 | Flush tables: 1 | Open tables: 256 | Queries per second avg: 0.083 |
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Core ::
3rd Party::

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3rd Party:: Admintools (6.0.6) 1 | Akeeba (8.0.6) 1 |

Modules :: Site ::
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Core ::
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3rd Party:: PLG_ACTIONLOG_ADMINTOOLS (6.0.6) 0 | PLG_ACTIONLOG_AKEEBABACKUP (8.0.6) 0 | PLG_CONSOLE_AKEEBABACKUP (8.0.6) 1 | plg_editors_codemirror (5.61.1) 1 | plg_editors_tinymce (5.8.1) 1 | plg_quickicon_akeebabackup (8.0.6) 1 | PLG_SYSTEM_ADMINTOOLS (6.0.6) 1 | PLG_SYSTEM_BACKUPONUPDATE (8.0.6) 1 |
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by toivo » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:03 am

If you install Joomla 4 RC3-dev from today's Nightly Builds, the table _mail_templates comes with 25 rows out-of-the-box.

sozzled wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:16 am
I haven't tested these features yet because the test site lives on Wampserver (hence, no email facility).
Configure SMTP as the mailer with Gmail and Joomla 4 emails work all right in Wampserver.
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:22 am

Thanks, @toivo. I'll look into your suggestions tomorrow. Sounds like J! 4 RC 1 and RC 2 were broken.
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by brian » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:56 pm

> . Sounds like J! 4 RC 1 and RC 2 were broken.

For you perhaps but not for others as we havent had any other reports of that.

As for the announcement of the release of RC2 it is right on the front page of www.joomla.org
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:34 pm

Thanks, @brian. It's probably something that broke in my case when updating from J! 4-beta7 -> J! 4 RC1 and I didn't see the missing table/checked-out-unable-to-checkin problem. No harm; I can trash the test site and start again. 8)
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by AMurray » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:00 pm

Joomla home pages was the first place I checked, plus the Developer Network pages etc (didn't think of Github...of course that's the obvious one).

Perhaps when I did check it was too soon, since Australia (WST) timezone is GMT+08:00.
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by sozzled » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:44 am

I trashed my test site. I installed J! 4 RC2 and then re-installed Akeeba Backup and Admin Tools and the test site is functioning without any error messages about missing/non-existent tables. It was easier to do this than to diagnose whatever problem caused the errors in the first place.
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Re: Table _mail_templates doesn't exist in engine

Post by brian » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:04 am

@amurray the announcement on www and the release on github happened within minutes of each other
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