Have authors view and edit their own unpublished articles

[stevent]

This question has been asked many times before, but I still can't find the answer:
How do I set permissions so that a front end author can submit an article, but not publish it and still view the article and make changes?

I found this post here, but it describes a feature I can't find: create a blog view of a category and set 'unpublished article' to Show.
viewtopic.php?t=975216#p3584243

The other option people talk about is that you must allow the user group to publish articles. Which is something you definitely not want in an editorial setting, when a publisher must review the article before it is made public.

Surely after more than 15 years of Joomla there must be a way to allow users to edit their own post, even it is unpublished. I would expect Joomla 4 to have a simple solution for this.

[Webdongle]

This question has been asked many times before, but I still can't find the answer:
How do I set permissions so that a front end author can submit an article, but not publish it and still view the article and make changes?...

Can't be done with core Joomla

[AMurray]

I'm sure you can do this.

In fact, J3 documentation https://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Access_Con ... t_Tutorial suggests that the user Group "Authors" default permissions are "Create" and "Edit Own" - so no tweaking of permissions is required. I would guess J4 is the same but if not you can change them.

J4 also has a more advanced workflow function, so maybe that would help.

https://docs.joomla.org/Publishing_Work ... ementation
https://docs.joomla.org/Publishing_Work ... enarios/en

[Webdongle]

@AMurray
The OP asked "How do I set permissions so that a front end author can submit an article, but not publish it and still view the article and make changes?"

That is not possible in core Joomla because:
"Edit State" controls if users can publish/unpublish Articles
1. If set 'No' then the user can not see it. As they can't see it they can't edit it.
2. If set 'Yes' then they can see it and Edit it (if they have edit Permissions for it).

In short
What the OP is asking is impossible. The user can not edit an Article they can not see.

The workflow (as I understand it) does not override the 'Edit State' Permissions. If you know differently please give the OP exact instructions to achieve exactly what he needs.

[stevent]

Yes, I know the edit state gives users to view unpublished articles, but also gives them permission to publish articles before they are reviewed.

This question was asked first almost 10 years ago and many times since. I don't know why this hasn't been addressed. I'm wondering what the design reasons behind are to not allow the author to view his own articles, no matter what state.

[AMurray]

"Edit State", yes has to do with publishing but that's not what I was referring to.

Edit Own: (per Joomla documentation): "Edit objects you have created". If that's not about editing content that one has created I don't know what is.

Edit Own should show the front-end logged-in Editor user the unpublished status of their own articles, and they should be able to re-open them to edit, without the need to give "Edit State" access just to see the articles?

[Webdongle]

"Edit State", yes has to do with publishing but that's not what I was referring to.

Edit Own: (per Joomla documentation): "Edit objects you have created". If that's not about editing content that one has created I don't know what is.

If users in the Editors User Group can't re-open their own articles to continue work on them, what's the point of a CMS without that function?
...

Once their item is published they can see it to edit it. Once they edit it then it becomes unpublished until someone with 'Edit state' Permissions publishes it. If the User who created/edited it does not have 'Edit state' Permissions then they can not see it (in the front end) to edit it until someone publishes it.

If they have admin access they may see it when unpublished and might even be able to edit it (not sure not tested) but the won't be able to publish it. But definitely on the front end when created/edited it unless they have 'Edit state' Permissions they won't see it until someone publishes it.

If I get time I will check what happens in Admin.


Addendum
If they have 'Edit state' Permissions then they can only publish/unpublish Articles they have Edit Permissions for. Although (if memory serves me correctly) they will see all unpublished Articles of view/access levels their user group is in.

[AMurray]

OK I was thinking they should be able to edit their own unpublished articles.....before they are published for the first time.

[Webdongle]

OK I was thinking they should be able to edit their own unpublished articles.....before they are published for the first time.

Not in the frontend, don't know about in admin. Best way to see what happens is test with a test user. It will take a while to try all combinations but that is the only way to know.