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Tags and Smart Search
Trying to determine if this expected behaviour.
Say I have a tag with value of 'My Tag' which is assigned to 10 articles. In a different article I have the text 'My Tag'
If I use the List All Tags menu item and select the My Tag tag, I do see all 10 tagged article.
When I do a smart search on My Tag, I only get back the single article with the text 'My Tag' where I would have expected/hoped for 11 articles
Is this expected behaviour or am I doing something wrong? I have run index/cleared and re-ran
Thanks very much
Say I have a tag with value of 'My Tag' which is assigned to 10 articles. In a different article I have the text 'My Tag'
If I use the List All Tags menu item and select the My Tag tag, I do see all 10 tagged article.
When I do a smart search on My Tag, I only get back the single article with the text 'My Tag' where I would have expected/hoped for 11 articles
Is this expected behaviour or am I doing something wrong? I have run index/cleared and re-ran
Thanks very much
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
Tags are currently not used by core Smart Search plugins.
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
Ah, so expected. Fair enough. Would you know if there are any future plans for them to be? Or is it something a 3rd party extension might help with?
The key purpose of my site is people coming to it to finding links to stuff based on searching. I do offer a By Tag option and I am working on getting Tag added to articles via an override as my current framework/builder seems to have removed them for some reason. [sigh]
Cheers for the response btw
The key purpose of my site is people coming to it to finding links to stuff based on searching. I do offer a By Tag option and I am working on getting Tag added to articles via an override as my current framework/builder seems to have removed them for some reason. [sigh]
Cheers for the response btw
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
Yes, it's something that could be done with a custom smart search plugin (replacing the core one). For future plans you'd have to ask the developers.
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
Tags are treated like the Categories. They are treated as autonomous entities and not as part of the content's text.
We (https://blue-coder.com) are thinking to develop a plugin to resolve that issue, along with indexing/searching into the custom fields.
So far this is just an idea, but can become reality if there is some interest
We (https://blue-coder.com) are thinking to develop a plugin to resolve that issue, along with indexing/searching into the custom fields.
So far this is just an idea, but can become reality if there is some interest
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
All I can say is "I am interested!" very much so. tbh, I'm not sure why it is thought of as separate content since when I add a tag to an article, in my mind, I am stating "This word is relevant to this article" explicitly
This would probably asking to much but I would even like it expanded to where the description of the tag is included. My specific 'use case' for it is that my user base community has a lot of different terms for the same thing (tags). For instance, I create the following tag with description:
- Tag 1
This tag is added to articles related to Tag 1 and Other Tag 1 and Third Tag 1 and Fourth Tag 1.
The above is preferred to creating tags...
- Tag 1
- Other Tag 1
- Third Tag 1
- Fourth Tag 1
I understand 100% if this would be too specific a use case for your plans but figured I would mention it :-)
Best of luck with those plans! Gimme shout if ya need a tester but not sure how useful I would be as I am very much the novice in Joomla but I'm always up for helping out
This would probably asking to much but I would even like it expanded to where the description of the tag is included. My specific 'use case' for it is that my user base community has a lot of different terms for the same thing (tags). For instance, I create the following tag with description:
- Tag 1
This tag is added to articles related to Tag 1 and Other Tag 1 and Third Tag 1 and Fourth Tag 1.
The above is preferred to creating tags...
- Tag 1
- Other Tag 1
- Third Tag 1
- Fourth Tag 1
I understand 100% if this would be too specific a use case for your plans but figured I would mention it :-)
Best of luck with those plans! Gimme shout if ya need a tester but not sure how useful I would be as I am very much the novice in Joomla but I'm always up for helping out
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
@sakiss - not sure if @ works here and sorry for necroing old post but...
I was wondering if the project you mentioned to add tags to the smart search index was still a possibility. I still have the need :-)
Cheers
I was wondering if the project you mentioned to add tags to the smart search index was still a possibility. I still have the need :-)
Cheers
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
We did not proceed as i saw no much demand.SPDJoomla4 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:50 pm@sakiss - not sure if @ works here and sorry for necroing old post but...
I was wondering if the project you mentioned to add tags to the smart search index was still a possibility. I still have the need :-)
Cheers
If you are interested we can possibly develop it for you, if you are willing to undertake the development costs.
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Re: Tags and Smart Search
Fair enough but unfortunately I have no budget, personal website.
Thanks for responding and sorry to have bothered you. Cheers :-)
Thanks for responding and sorry to have bothered you. Cheers :-)