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Cache problem: I can’t disable it

Post by original35 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:13 pm

Cache problem: I can’t disable it in Joomla

I nearly ended migration to J 4.1.5 on one site.
I still have enhancements to do on template.
I am using TT8 to modify templates.

The problem I am facing with is that I can’t disable cache in Joomla.
In Configuration/System/System cache is disactivated.
But if I do a change in a page, I can’t see it on a browser before clearing the cache in Joomla.
So it seems like joomla has a secret cache somewhere.
This is very frustrating because I must clear it after each content edition in Backend in order to see effect on frontend. But I can survive with that.
What is very frustrating now is that I do template modifications and after importing new template and checking it’s default, I don’t see the result in frontend.

Of course I already checked that MAMP pro was not doing caching : php /cache module execution off.
As I tested 3 browsers in parallel (firefox, safari and Chrome) and they did’t gave me same result I disable cache also there
Firefox about:config
browser.cache.memory.enable. false
browser.cache.disk.enable false

Chrome Menu/More tools/Developer tools/Check the “Disable cache” box.
Safari too much complicated I drop it.

So Why joomla is doing caching when it is supposed no to do it ?

Thanks for your help

here is FPA
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Re: Cache problem: I can’t disable it

Post by sozzled » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:59 pm

Go to Plugins in the backend and search for "cache" to find System - Page Cache; this plugin is disabled by default on new installations of J!. Disable this plugin.

For more information about what this plugin does, see https://docs.joomla.org/Cache#Page_Caching; sorry, there is no documentation written for J! 4.x yet but the principle is the same as J! 3.x.
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Re: Cache problem: I can’t disable it

Post by original35 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:31 pm

Thank you Sozzled
You showed me how to kill the cache.
Life is much easyer now.

As I am a little bit stupid, I did not erased the cache after installing a new template, so the new template was never displayed (due to this 'secret cache' always active)

Thank's a lot again


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