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Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:06 am

Hi,
Sorry if this question was asked but I found the answer only applicable on Joomla old version for my question.

I have insert the template on joomla but after I click on the site, the template look like blank. So what should I do if the template need to look like demo template?

I have been looking this for 2 days and I still hanging unless I just need to add the module on the template. but still the module doesn't have much like what the demo display

I hope this can be answered soon cuz I need to show my boss joomla design this friday

Thank you in advance

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by toivo » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:55 am

Welcome to the Joomla forum!

Which template is this? Is it a free or paid template? Screenshots of the demo site and the site under development would help in understanding the possible issue.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by gws » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:13 am

Many template providers do not give you the images used in their demos as they are often copyrighted ,you are supposed to use your own images. Is that your problem?

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:16 am

Here is the template. It is free template anyway

https://j4demo2.ltheme.com/joomla/lt-digix/

And here is the site
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:21 am

gws wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:13 am
Many template providers do not give you the images used in their demos as they are often copyrighted ,you are supposed to use your own images. Is that your problem?
its not about image.. its about the design but also if i upload another template on Joomla the site also look blank means doesn't have the design showing

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by gws » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:24 am

What is the url of your site?

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:38 am

toivo wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:55 am
Welcome to the Joomla forum!

Which template is this? Is it a free or paid template? Screenshots of the demo site and the site under development would help in understanding the possible issue.
Here is the template. It is free template anyway

https://j4demo2.ltheme.com/joomla/lt-digix/

And here is the site:
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:40 am

gws wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:24 am
What is the url of your site?
the url is not publish yet. so far I access through internal organization system. but I can give you screenshort my site
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by gws » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:44 am

Test your site with the default cassiopeia template and see what happens.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by SharkyKZ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:48 am

Your site doesn't have any content. The demo site is using JoomShaper Page Builder, in case you want the same features.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:08 am

SharkyKZ wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:48 am
Your site doesn't have any content. The demo site is using JoomShaper Page Builder, in case you want the same features.

Ohh. Is it same with Nicepage? last time I edit the template but I need to pay if i want to export to joomla

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:09 am

gws wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:44 am
Test your site with the default cassiopeia template and see what happens.
It is okay but cassiopeia don't have design like demo template

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by SharkyKZ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:14 am

syafiq wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:08 am
SharkyKZ wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:48 am
Your site doesn't have any content. The demo site is using JoomShaper Page Builder, in case you want the same features.

Ohh. Is it same with Nicepage? last time I edit the template but I need to pay if i want to export to joomla
No, it's a Joomla extension.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by gws » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:16 am

It is okay but cassiopeia don't have design like demo template
Does the site work with cassiopeia? Do you have content on the site?

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:35 am

gws wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:16 am
It is okay but cassiopeia don't have design like demo template
Does the site work with cassiopeia? Do you have content on the site?
1. what do you mean work with cassiopeaia. the cassiopeaia just have menu, login and breadcrumb for the first time i use Joomla
2. The content not publish yet but I want to use the features like on the demo

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by drmenzelit » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:34 am

You need to put content on your page and usee modules and images like in the demo.
Maybe there is a quickstart package from the template you can use to see how it is used.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:22 am

drmenzelit wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:34 am
...
Maybe there is a quickstart package from the template you can use to see how it is used.
Using quickstart packages is not recomended.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by drmenzelit » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:24 am

Webdongle wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:22 am
Using quickstart packages is not recomended.
For a live site of course not, but to understand how a template works it can be useful

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:49 am

drmenzelit wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:24 am
...

For a live site of course not, but to understand how a template works it can be useful
No because the Template will be the same whether it's installed into Joomla or installed as a quickstart package.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by drmenzelit » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:56 am

A quickstart package is Joomla + template + demo content. You can install it locally and look how the modules are positioned, how to use the parameters, etc. and build your website on a empty Joomla installation + template and own content.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:32 pm

drmenzelit wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:56 am
A quickstart package is Joomla + template + demo content. ...
Wrong again. Most quickstart packages do NOT have sample data. In the most cases a quickstart package is a 'loss leader' to attract potential customers who think installing Joomla is difficult. They then attempt to convert those freebies into sales.

Quickstart packages (whether Template or Host's) are nothing more than a marketing ploy. They have no advantage over using Joomla as it is designed to but frequently have disadvantages.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by drmenzelit » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:40 pm

Webdongle wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:32 pm
Wrong again.
If that makes you happy, I'm wrong and you are right. I'm over and out. I don't need such discussions.

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by herb200mph » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:33 pm

Universally, contrary as stated, packaged templates and operating frameworks are not an act of "criminal intent" by the developers.

Installing them on internal testing platforms isn't "bad" per se insomuch as an inexperienced Joomla! user can learn how to use the platform, build content, etc. Sometimes these folks don't grasp the basics before trying to launch into more complicated stuff.

And yes, the developer sample template rarely replicate on a local site even with a packaged install. But that does not give rise to beating newcomers with a stick for "being bad."

Perhaps pointing these new users to "how to use Joomla!" tutorials might help. If there even is one that does more that point out the "obvious" as is done on most all of the "Help" pages.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:47 pm

herb200mph wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:33 pm
Universally, contrary as stated, packaged templates and operating frameworks are not an act of "criminal intent" by the developers...
Who said they were 'an act of "criminal intent" by the developers'?

herb200mph wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:33 pm
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Installing them on internal testing platforms isn't "bad" per se insomuch as an inexperienced Joomla! user can learn how to use the platform, build content, etc. Sometimes these folks don't grasp the basics before trying to launch into more complicated stuff....
All that can be done with a Joomla install and installing sample data


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Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:33 pm
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And yes, the developer sample template rarely replicate on a local site even with a packaged install. But that does not give rise to beating newcomers with a stick for "being bad."

...
Nobody is 'beating newcomers with a stick'. Just some of us take the time to explain the pitfalls in the hope it will prevent newbies from wasting theirs.


herb200mph wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:33 pm
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Perhaps pointing these new users to "how to use Joomla!" tutorials might help. If there even is one that does more that point out the "obvious" as is done on most all of the "Help" pages.
Yes but they need to install Joomla first. If someone is going to learn something then surely they need to start with a firm base. Using a quickstart package is not a firm base and can cause problems later on.

Bottom line
Best way to test a 3rd party Template is to install the Joomla full package and sample data. That will show if the Template works with Joomla and not just with the quickstart package.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by mandville » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:43 pm

to quote from the template site
This design is fully compatible with Joomla! 3.x and Joomla! 4. We have a Quickstart package (full website like demo when you get PRO version) for both Joomla! 3 and Joomla! 4, download Joomla! platform that you want to work on it.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:52 pm

mandville wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:43 pm
to quote from the template site
... We have a Quickstart package (full website like demo when you get PRO version) ...
Full when you get the PRO version, yep

I have nothing against people earning a living. All I am doing is pointing out the free Templates and quickstart packages are part of a marketing plan. And one that is not always needed.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by sozzled » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:32 pm

This topic is another example where a relatively straightforward question gets sidetracked into a "panel discussion". When I first saw this topic—and the subject—I was mildly amused. Of course the "demo version" often exceeds the consumer's expectations when they first open the packaging. The whole purpose of "demo versions" is to lure customers into the store so as to purchase all those extra goodies that make their basic product sparkle.

There's nothing mischievous about using these marketing techniques; there's no double-dealing or chicanery here: it's simply a case of caveat emptor; read the fine print. But while people often don't read the fine print, there's no need to take a piece of four-by-two and add insult to injury by reminding people, after the event, that they failed to do their own research.

Further, as I wrote elsewhere on this forum only recently, people don't always write in the most nuanced of ways.
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We are all aware of the pitfalls in using "quickie installs" as the basis for constructing a website to be used for business/production purposes. There are, however, benefits in using pre-packaged installation kits for experimentation. I've used 'em. I'm sure everyone's used 'em but, like most of us who build websites that we hope will survive a limited test of time, once we've played with these demos—a week or so, at the most—that's when it's time to shred 'em and do things "properly". There's no right or wrong answer here and it does not edify the discussion to beat one's chest and proclaim their particular point of view needs to be hammered tirelessly. For added good measure, please read my signature quote at the end of this post.

Therefore, to the person who started this discussion, @syafiq, I'm sorry that your question was derailed by a well-intentioned panel discussion. I also wish to express my sympathy that the template you obtained did not fulfill all your expectations. C'est la vie. 8)

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by Webdongle » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 pm

sozzled wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:32 pm
... to the person who started this discussion, @syafiq, I'm sorry that your question was derailed by a well-intentioned panel discussion. ..
Say what you like about (what you call) "a panel discussion", it gives the OP and other newbies a broader picture.
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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:15 am

drmenzelit wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:34 am
You need to put content on your page and usee modules and images like in the demo.
Maybe there is a quickstart package from the template you can use to see how it is used.
so how the design for the page. I need to upload the content first ?

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Re: Template look dull on site but on demo look amazing

Post by syafiq » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:42 am

sozzled wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:32 pm
This topic is another example where a relatively straightforward question gets sidetracked into a "panel discussion". When I first saw this topic—and the subject—I was mildly amused. Of course the "demo version" often exceeds the consumer's expectations when they first open the packaging. The whole purpose of "demo versions" is to lure customers into the store so as to purchase all those extra goodies that make their basic product sparkle.
so technically. Is there a ways that I can edit like that on backend?


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