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Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by Yanni » Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:02 am

Hello joomla lovers,
I had the need to write this article because I really don't understand the reason that Joomla developers decided to remove ReCAPTCHA plugin from the joomla 5?

Supposedly joomla go forward this is a step back... it's a shame that Joomla 5 platform doesn't have out of the box at list CAPTCHA V3

I am aware that Sharky made a reCAPTCHA v3 and I am grateful but unfortunately it doesn't work at least on my site

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Re: Joomla 5 MUST HAVE CAPTCHA V3 Plugin

Post by pe7er » Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:56 am

Yanni wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:02 amI really don't understand the reason that Joomla developers decided to remove ReCAPTCHA plugin from the joomla 5?
Google ReCaptcha got removed to remove dependencies to external services.
It was decided that such functionality would fit better in 3rd party plugins.

There are various free and paid Captcha plugins available,
see https://extensions.joomla.org/tags/captcha/
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Re: Joomla 5 MUST HAVE CAPTCHA V3 Plugin

Post by JAVesey » Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:52 pm

Yanni wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:02 am Supposedly joomla go forward this is a step back... it's a shame that Joomla 5 platform doesn't have out of the box at list CAPTCHA V3
I don’t agree at all, not least because it is/was not GDPR-compliant and there are plenty of other alternatives available. Many are better, too.

I removed the Invisible reCaptcha plugin (it was there due to being used on my J3 site and stayed during the J3 —> J4 —> J5 migrations/upgrades) from my site recently and replaced it with an alternative. I don’t regret this for one minute.

I agree with Peter. Better to give users a choice and make a positive decision about what they want.
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Re: Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by Webdongle » Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:53 pm

It would be interesting to know what % of sites actually have registered users.
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Re: Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by pe7er » Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:28 am

Webdongle wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:53 pmIt would be interesting to know what % of sites actually have registered users.
I mostly use a Captcha plugin to protect contact forms against spam bots.
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Re: Joomla 5 MUST HAVE CAPTCHA V3 Plugin

Post by Mojsplet » Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:33 pm

JAVesey wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:52 pm I don’t agree at all, not least because it is/was not GDPR-compliant and there are plenty of other alternatives available. Many are better, too.

I removed the Invisible reCaptcha plugin (it was there due to being used on my J3 site and stayed during the J3 —> J4 —> J5 migrations/upgrades) from my site recently and replaced it with an alternative. I don’t regret this for one minute.

I agree with Peter. Better to give users a choice and make a positive decision about what they want.
Which alternative free captcha is GDPR compliant and better than Google?

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Re: Joomla 5 MUST HAVE CAPTCHA V3 Plugin

Post by pe7er » Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:54 pm

Mojsplet wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:33 pmWhich alternative free captcha is GDPR compliant and better than Google?
All Captcha methods that don't use an external service for getting the puzzles that need to be solved.
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Re: Joomla 5 MUST HAVE CAPTCHA V3 Plugin

Post by Mojsplet » Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:56 pm

pe7er wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:54 pm
Mojsplet wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:33 pmWhich alternative free captcha is GDPR compliant and better than Google?
All Captcha methods that don't use an external service for getting the puzzles that need to be solved.
That is not true. We all know that math and crosed word captha is useles.

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Re: Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by Webdongle » Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:23 pm

@Mojsplet

Who is 'We all'? and How do they 'know'?
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Re: Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by Mojsplet » Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:46 pm

Webdongle wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:23 pm @Mojsplet

Who is 'We all'? and How do they 'know'?
Spam bots have been able to solve mathematical captchas for a long time. It is the same with crossed out and garbled characters. I know from practice.
Lately, even Google captcha is not immune to spam bots.
That's why I'm asking for a concrete solution and not arguing about the capabilities of spam bots.

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Re: Joomla 5 must have Captcha V3 plugin

Post by Webdongle » Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:32 pm

Mojsplet wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:46 pm...
Lately, even Google captcha is not immune to spam bots.
That's why I'm asking for a concrete solution and not arguing about the capabilities of spam bots.
There is no concrete solution. and yes you were 'arguing about the capabilities of spam bots'

You just need to research and pick what is best for you.

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