Advertisement

SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Need help with the Administration of your Joomla! 5.x site? This is the spot for you.

Moderator: General Support Moderators

Forum rules
Forum Rules
Absolute Beginner's Guide to Joomla! <-- please read before posting, this means YOU.
Forum Post Assistant - If you are serious about wanting help, you will use this tool to help you post.
Windows Defender SmartScreen Issues <-- please read this if using Windows 10
Post Reply
imfsub12
Joomla! Intern
Joomla! Intern
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 pm

SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by imfsub12 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:08 am

So I trying to figure how to now send out email from my Joomla Site using Google Business email

- As now you can't turn on LESS SECURE APP in the GMAIL ADMIN (Paid email for business) as its getting not supported any more

https://support.google.com/a/answer/6260879?hl=en

So now my question is how do we send out EMAIl with GMAIL?

Just so you know I do have this working on other client website but I have the less secure app (password) working

But with a new client I can't turn this on and can't send out emails via SMTP


My settings are currently

Mailer - SMTP
SMTP HOST - smtp.gmail.com
SMTP PORT - I have tried 465 and 587
SMTP AUTHENTICATION - YES
SMTP USERNAME - put in email
SMPT PASSWORD - I putting in the actual password

When I do a send test it just fails sending the SMTP Error: Could not connect to SMTP host.

So how do we now send?

Advertisement
User avatar
AMurray
Joomla! Master
Joomla! Master
Posts: 10494
Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:35 am
Location: Australia

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by AMurray » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:09 am

Assuming this may help : https://docs.joomla.org/How_do_I_use_Gm ... _server%3F taking note of the "App specific password" section towards the bottom which links to https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/18583.

You could always set up an email account within your hosting account (cPanel, or Plesk etc) and use that email address as the "sender" for system emails within the Joomla site.
Regards - A Murray
Global Support Moderator

User avatar
toivo
Joomla! Master
Joomla! Master
Posts: 18026
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:48 am
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by toivo » Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:30 am

AMurray wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:09 am... taking note of the "App specific password" section towards the bottom which links to https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/18583.
The link has changed to https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en - the last part starting with ? was new. The link has now been corrected in the Joomla tutorial How do I use Gmail as my mail server?.

Sending emails from Joomla using a app password works all right, especially from localhost sites. Haven't tried the Google Business email, though.
Toivo Talikka, Global Moderator

imfsub12
Joomla! Intern
Joomla! Intern
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 pm

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by imfsub12 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:48 pm

Thanks

I got the Less Secure password to work only via the LINK - to the less secure password page
- But there is no more simple button to click on in the security page

I wonder when Joomla will get the new way to authenticate your gmail account as its all over all of the documentation that Less secure passwords are going away.\

"To continue using an app with your Google Account, you'll need to use a more secure type of access that doesn't share password data. You can: Use OAuth, Switch to an app that offers OAuth, and Create an app password to access these apps"

https://support.google.com/accounts/ans ... 0255?hl=en
Starting January 2025, less secure apps, third-party apps, or devices that have you sign in with only your username and password will no longer be supported for Google Workspace accounts. For exact dates, visit Google Workspace Updates. To continue to use a specific app with your Google Account, you’ll need to use a more secure type of access that doesn’t share password data. Learn how to use Sign in with Google.

imfsub12
Joomla! Intern
Joomla! Intern
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 pm

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by imfsub12 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:08 pm

AMurray wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:09 am Assuming this may help : https://docs.joomla.org/How_do_I_use_Gm ... _server%3F taking note of the "App specific password" section towards the bottom which links to https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/18583.

You could always set up an email account within your hosting account (cPanel, or Plesk etc) and use that email address as the "sender" for system emails within the Joomla site.

Thanks the reply

1. Like i mentioned its not showing any more - as its facing out - I had to use a hard URL to make it work there is no way to click a button (trust me this is how i have been doing it for years)

2. I don't use any client on cPanel email - as then they hold me hostage if I want to move server. And I can't compair to what Google can do for email. As i have clients that have 30 GB x 30 users - I don't have that much space on my VPS.
- But i see where you are going with this - But the 2 MX records won't work and I have to send them out using the Clients email acccount and not a default email - as they will have no clue who it is if its coming from my company email account

User avatar
Yiannistaos
Joomla! Enthusiast
Joomla! Enthusiast
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:37 am
Contact:

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by Yiannistaos » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:31 pm

Hi,

I'm currently working on a plugin (Gmail SMTP) to address this problem. If you're still interested, I am looking for beta testers to try it out.

Thanks!
PHP Developer with 15+ Years in Web Development
Creator of Web357.com with 8.5k+ Happy Joomla! Users
Passionate About PHP, JavaScript, React, and Joomla!
Find my Joomla! Extensions at https://www.web357.com

imfsub12
Joomla! Intern
Joomla! Intern
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 pm

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by imfsub12 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:34 pm

Sure PM me

cdt871
Joomla! Fledgling
Joomla! Fledgling
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:28 pm

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by cdt871 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:33 pm

I would be interested in beta testing a plugin as well

User avatar
Per Yngve Berg
Joomla! Master
Joomla! Master
Posts: 31580
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:27 pm
Location: Romerike, Norway

Re: SMTP - Gmail Less Secure - Can't make a new one anymore

Post by Per Yngve Berg » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:22 pm

I found this example for using OAuth2 to Gmail with php mailer.

https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer/ ... oauth.phps

Advertisement

Post Reply

Return to “Administration Joomla! 5.x”