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Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:18 am
by stingrey
Also you would surprised at the the number of CMS projects that exist out there that you only find out about when you do something like a name search.  There were a few times that names made it past inital stages, but than we had to scrub it as another CMS project (let alone IT project) already existed.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:28 am
by farimi
Joomla -  the name represent the product. By means its mean a product built together by us.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:26 am
by mediawizard
Jumla also means 'all together' in Marathi!!

And Jhoom Lo means come dance in Hindi

So as far as I am concerned the name rox!!!

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:20 am
by Elpie
manuman wrote: I would politely disagree with Elpie (just this once  :D), I have seen and been involved with selling much weirder names to very large business's. In the end what Joomla! is, will speak much more loudly than what its called.
What a tactful, kind way to say you disagree with me :) I bet its not going to be "just this once" though! LOL
I foresee a long and happy future for the new CMS and would be very happy to be proven wrong about the name. ( I still don't know how to pronounce it though).

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:21 am
by Elpie
mediawizard wrote: Jumla also means 'all together' in Marathi!!

And Jhoom Lo means come dance in Hindi

So as far as I am concerned the name rox!!!
J' Lo? Wow! Another celebrity we could ask to endorse us!  ;D

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:42 am
by lester
I feel reassured by so many people what saying Joomla! means in so many different languages and cultures. For a worldwide product that sounds like a good choice to me.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:50 am
by farimi
This just pop up to me... why the '!' in the name? Anybody care to explain?

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:55 am
by Kampp
I am not a fan of the word I must say. Some reasons are:
  • Unlike Mambo Joomla is difficult to pronounce
  • I myself am not even sure about how to pronounce it in my own language or in English
  • People don't have an association with the word like the have with mambo and therefore perhaps chooses another CMS as the first selection is only by relation to the name. That’s even how I found Mambo!!!!!!
  • The fact that the name has a meaning is good, but on the other hand i a few months it won't have the same meaning
  • O followed by an M is difficult to pronounce in many languages and is done so very different of that reason
Well, it's too late now... I just had better hopes as I saw a lot better names in the suggesions forum.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:04 pm
by rjs
farimi wrote: This just pop up to me... why the '!' in the name? Anybody care to explain?
"All Together" "!= In a big way"

We are all together! = All together in a big way

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:25 pm
by farimi
maybe it cam be pronounce as jomla!  ???? or yhomla ?

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:10 pm
by Gino1968
Congratz with the new baby Joomla!

Hopefully she/he will grow up in a nice and peaceful environment.

Will you celebrate this event with a little gift for the relatives (Joomla! community)?

You could make a nice (brand new) template for this occasion ;)



PS: Here in Belgium, parents give chocolade beans to the family members.  Joomla! is a she/he?

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:30 pm
by farimi
yeah... new templates.... just to differs from *mambo.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:06 am
by Vish
mediawizard wrote: Jumla also means 'all together' in Marathi!!

And Jhoom Lo means come dance in Hindi

So as far as I am concerned the name rox!!!
I am with you on that Samit.


"Jhoom barabar Jhoom Sharabii...."

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:12 am
by MercedesAMG
When I look at any cms opensource system
as a corporate user
here is what I do

I look at how long the project has been around
I look at how widespread it is used
I look for an active user and development community
I will ask a question on the forum and see how fast it is replied to
I download and install it
I use it, if it installs easy

If it works and I think I understand it

as a user I DONT CARE WHAT ITS CALLED

developers, designers, marketers, people close to the code CARE(and they should)

*ambo passed all the tests, and from what I can see in this continued community

JOOMLA! shall pass the tests.

This is a very active vibrant community, thats what makes it so good.
;D

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:40 am
by farimi
okay here is the situation.

a newbie heard about the beauty and how easier a CMS to maintain. So he googling around and found several sites offering free CMS.

But he was looking for a comparison site for CMS to help him choose. So he goes to http://www.opensourcecms.com and http://www.cmsmatrix.org. Well, what did he found?

A dozens of CMS with a name which make him smile and laugh. Never the less, he tried the CMS one by one. And sometime after that he found a cms with interactivity, simple yet flexible. Guess what, after that he told his friend he found a good CMS called joomla! His friends laugh and laugh at him for the sound of the name is too stupid. But a week after that they all using joomla on their website and they even promoted it to others.

Between you and me... is the name sound stupid? i think yes at first. but we get over it.
Is the product not good? you tell me.
Can we stand tall and promote the product? for me, yes why not? but different strategies needed for different audience. :)

Maybe for corporate - let them see, touch, use, feel the power of joomla! before introducing its name. Let them see the product first. not the name.

Children, did not our moms teach us to not to judge a book by its cover? ;)

ciow!  8)

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:33 am
by Troubadour
I really don't see what the problem is. On first glance I came over all "What the?!?!?" but after a few minutes really came to appreciate the name.

As others have mentioned, it'll hardly be the only serious software project with a less-than-hardcore name. Google alone is proof of this. As is Yahoo!, certain products from the guys over at 37Signals and Monster.com.

Embrace it. Hardcore and tough-sounding just comes off as macho and gauche.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:40 am
by Artemisio
Troubadour wrote: I really don't see what the problem is. On first glance I came over all "What the?!?!?" but after a few minutes really came to appreciate the name.
My first reaction was much like yours, only I haven't done to the "get over it" phase. I hope it will happen, cause I am very disappointed.
I find the new name silly at best. It would have been perfect if we were speaking about a chocolate bar.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:43 am
by darkstar
well, i think the name is o.k. ;)  it´s very difficult today to find a copyright free name.. important is the cms and its techniks not the name i think..  ::)

congratulations joomla... i like you!  :-*

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:59 am
by apek
at first time i read the name,one think cross my mind.."what the...."..
its not sounds good enough...but it just a first impression for a name...
whats more important is let power in simplicity (oops..that was mambo slogan)..maybe let the power behind the stupid name reveals..
we can give a commercial name that can attract the public or corporate to use this software yet in the end it will boil down to the spirit of the open source...
if some people call the name sounds stupid, the stupid name that bring us together here...for anything else you got Mastercard, for this true open source spirit..priceless.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:50 pm
by Doz
So,

Are people called Joombers now?

Do we use mods coms and joombots?

when we insert an image tag into content will it be a {joombimage} or a {jmbimage}?

Is it a time for Joombilation?

The community and core are going to have to come up with a whole new dialect of puns, word fragments, concatenations and other abuses of the english language to give the name force and appeal, to take possession of it and make it theirs.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:30 pm
by lester
Doz wrote: Are people called Joombers now?
Is it a time for Joombilation?
The community and core are going to have to come up with a whole new dialect of puns, word fragments, concatenations ...
That's already happening, over here:D

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:20 pm
by sfwood
At the risk of appearing stupid, which is the correct pronunciation of joomla?

JOOM-luh 
JOOM-lay
joom-LUH
joom-LAY

i.e. which syllable gets the emphasis and how is the last syllable pronounced?

thanks,
Steve

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:00 pm
by lester
Joomla! is the phonetic spelling of the Swahili word Jumla so the two syllables rhyme with zoom and car respectively.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:10 am
by farimi
look up at Swahili-English dictionary... anybody ? ???

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:45 am
by elmoch
This thread makes no sense to me as the name has been chosen. IMHO it doesn't matter what the name is as long as the product is good, and Joomla only needs to prove to be the best, what will not be difficult at all. So let's get down to work!

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:45 pm
by imagebee
congratulations on settling on a name...

it does the job - is memorable and not easily confused with anything else - i like it and think it will become a classic. :D

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:22 am
by Shelbie
Where is the download link on the new Joomla! website?

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:24 am
by brad
Shelbie wrote: Where is the download link on the new Joomla! website?
Please use: http://www.opensourcematters.org/index. ... &Itemid=30

However we should have a link on that page... I will see what I can do.

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:10 pm
by newart
This thread is open. why? We have now a great name: Joomla! What's the next step? Not the name, do you agree, I hope so ;) :D

Re: Project Name Chosen- Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:53 pm
by hhemken
Great name! Of course it is surprising, weird, unusual, and will cause smiles and bewilderment! That's the point! This is an entirely new brand in the SW marketplace. As I suggested in my earlier post, the name must mean this specific piece of software, and nothing else. It is in effect a globally unique identifier. Also, it is only two syllables, easy to pronounce, and very difficult to confuse with anything else. Well, except maybe Jamba Juice, but that has positive connotations.

Excellent choice!