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Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by pe7er » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:06 am

Here you can discuss about the release of Joomla 3.5 Beta 1 (Beta = only for testing, not for production websites)

See Announcement: http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=898599
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:39 am

The links on http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=898599 are for the update package
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by imanickam » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:42 am

The URL to/of the Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1 full package is https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/re ... ackage.zip.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Chris » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:13 am

Thanks for informing me about beta 3.5
I have downloaded that version and installed at local machine.

What now?
What is new and what has changed?

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Sorry I just found the link.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:44 pm

Is 3.5.0 designed run on php 7 ?
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by pe7er » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:52 pm

Webdongle wrote:Is 3.5.0 designed run on php 7 ?
Yes, I think so.
See: https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/is ... -125494610
And when you submit PRs (Pull Requests, patches) they are checked against PHP7.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:27 pm

I cant get it to install on php 7. And if I install then switch php to 7 then front end displays but admin login screen just goes from /administrator to /administrator/index.php and empties the boxes. Front end displays but login refreshes and empties the boxes.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by mbabker » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:08 pm

What PHP 7 version? The -dev string isn't giving much helpful data.

IIRC PHP 7 builds before the first or second beta had some quirks with the session handling that would cause Joomla to not work right at all. With the current release candidates, that should not be an issue.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:41 pm

mbabker wrote:What PHP 7 version? The -dev string isn't giving much helpful data.
...
ZeroXI_php_7_0_0_dev_may20.exe from http://sourceforge.net/projects/miniser ... XImodules/ . It's the only php 7 plugin that I could find for uniform server.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by mbabker » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:21 pm

That's heavily dated based on the filename. https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#timetable shows all the release dates, you'll want a build for sometime after July 23 if you can find it. There are some hosts out there offering PHP 7 if you're using one of them, or if you're comfortable with running VMs there are a few out there for that as well. But with the date on that build string, I wouldn't rely on it; beta 1 or beta 2 was the first PHP 7 release where I was able to do most basic functions.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:08 pm

Thought it might be the php version. Have a 7 on my Host's server ... installed on there. Thanks
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:47 pm

What is the minimum php requirement for 3.5 beta? It s like 3.x , (php 5.3.10 +) ? The point of my question is to test in 5.4 , 5, 5 and 5,6
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:11 pm

A discussion about the new 'feature' that collects data being installed without specific permission can be seen at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla- ... F_Ge0FBwAJ. Some users may find the discussion interesting.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Per Yngve Berg » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:50 pm

Did a fresh install on Mysql 5.6.27 and php 5.6.14

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Table 'ux0po_banners' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_categories' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_contact_details' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_content' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_menu' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_newsfeeds' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_tags' does not have column 'alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)
Table 'ux0po_ucm_content' does not have column 'core_alias' with type 'varchar(191)'. (From file 3.5.0-2015-07-01.sql.)

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:02 pm

Webdongle wrote:A discussion about the new 'feature' that collects data being installed without specific permission can be seen at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla- ... F_Ge0FBwAJ. Some users may find the discussion interesting.
My opinion is that this new feature must be selectable or disabled by from the install.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:37 pm

ribo wrote:...
My opinion is that this new feature must be selectable or disabled by from the install.
Perhaps a Poll should be created to get users views before 3.0 stable is released ?
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:47 pm

Webdongle wrote:
ribo wrote:...
My opinion is that this new feature must be selectable or disabled by from the install.
Perhaps a Poll should be created to get users views before 3.0 stable is released ?
It s a good idea but i am not sure if many users will see or read that poll.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by leolam » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:34 pm

3.0 Stable was a log time ago. (typo for sure) However that is not relevant. A poll on this issue is not feasible since the issue might be not understood by many of the users (which is not an offensive statement but just a fact) since the entire story should be clarified. Nothing is wrong with the collection of the data as mentioned for sure..... It is minimal and not intrusive and does not collect data from the (visiting) person itself so this entire discussion is useless for me?

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:07 pm

leolam wrote:3.0 Stable was a log time ago. (typo for sure) However that is not relevant. A poll on this issue is not feasible since the issue might be not understood by many of the users (which is not an offensive statement but just a fact) since the entire story should be clarified. Nothing is wrong with the collection of the data as mentioned for sure..... It is minimal and not intrusive and does not collect data from the (visiting) person itself so this entire discussion is useless for me?

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Post by leolam » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:10 pm

That was already clarified if you check the posts and the Pull Requests

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:17 pm

leolam wrote:That was already clarified if you check the posts and the Pull Requests

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by ribo » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:39 pm

I just saw also that they add new functions in stats plugin https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/8346
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:50 pm

ribo wrote:I just saw also that they add new functions in stats plugin https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/8346
Yep and it has been merged. The devs reacted quickly to the concerns raised and adopted the suggestions. Thanks all
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by leolam » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:51 pm

ribo wrote:I just saw also that they add new functions in stats plugin https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/8346
They changed based on Community/Google and Github communications so they listened well. Job explicitly well done by PHPRoberto

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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by Webdongle » Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:13 pm

mbabker wrote:That's heavily dated based on the filename. https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#timetable shows all the release dates, you'll want a build for sometime after July 23 if you can find it. There are some hosts out there offering PHP 7 if you're using one of them, or if you're comfortable with running VMs there are a few out there for that as well. But with the date on that build string, I wouldn't rely on it; beta 1 or beta 2 was the first PHP 7 release where I was able to do most basic functions.
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by mandville » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:21 pm

discussing these "concerns" in the office today the best suggestion came up to provide a stats version and separate obscure minor link non stats version. ... <grin>
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by AMurray » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:08 am

Any further news on Beta 2 and beyond? http://www.joomla.org. still shows this schedule:
Joomla.org wrote:When is the stable release due?

We have revised the launch timeline slightly to ensure we can get everything up to the quality levels we all would like, and to ensure thorough testing on as many hosting environments as possible.

The schedule is now as follows:

17 November beta 2
1 December - Release Candidate
8 December – 3.5 Stable
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by darb » Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:09 pm

AMurray wrote:Any further news on Beta 2 and beyond? http://www.joomla.org. still shows this schedule:
Joomla.org wrote:When is the stable release due?

We have revised the launch timeline slightly to ensure we can get everything up to the quality levels we all would like, and to ensure thorough testing on as many hosting environments as possible.

The schedule is now as follows:

17 November beta 2
1 December - Release Candidate
8 December – 3.5 Stable
Here is an updated time release https://www.joomla.org/announcements/re ... r-3-5.html with a new estimated time line development phase of 12 weeks between 3.5 beta 1 to 3.5 beta 2 to now close the last 3 annoying bugs. https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/mi ... a!%203.5.0

Hope Santa is coming to close this gaps.

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The following updated timeline :
    January 27th 2016 - 3.5 Beta 2

    February 3rd, 2016 - 3.5 Beta 3

    February 10th, 2016 - 3.5 Release Candidate

    February 17th, 2016 - 3.5 Stable Release
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Re: Discuss Joomla! 3.5 Beta 1

Post by darb » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:59 pm

Webdongle wrote:Thought it might be the php version. Have a 7 on my Host's server ... installed on there. Thanks
Some info about how to enable php 7 for production sites on SiteGrounds server hosting and that it works on all their serves now too https://www.siteground.com/blog/php7-av ... d-servers/

Drupal and WP have support for php 7 also.
Drupal 8 - Officially supports PHP 7. Available for download.
Drupal 7 - Works with PHP 7. Available for download.
WordPress 4.3.1 - Works with PHP 7. Available for download.
Joomla! 3.4.5 - Does not support PHP 7.
Joomla! 3.5 - Supports PHP 7. Will be released in January 2016.
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