But since I'm not religious, I'm going to swear in this "church", or criticize the new name for a nice product.
YES, I THINK Joomla! is a bad, stupid and, and, and name.
The so called "world class PR/Marketing firm" that has been involved in this name selection, can not have taken in consideration that we do not all speak English!
That this is a product and community that comes from almost every part of this world we live in.
World class PR firm or not, I would have kicked their sweet as.. out of the door bringing a name like this on the table!
Thinking of trying to marked a product with a name like this, to any type of a Norwegian company or organization, well, it makes me just want to give up now, and look elsewhere for a product with a much better name.
On joomla.org http://www.joomla.org/content/view/12/26/ I quote this:
This name was chosen from thousands of recommendations by the community, and even went through an arduous review session by branding and marketing professionals who also felt that Joomla! was the best choice of the lot.
I have looked trough these threads for a mention, or something that looks like this new, unspeakable name:
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... 189.0.html
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... ,89.0.html
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... 272.0.html
Not finding anything that looks, or mentions anything that is close to the new name.
Except this: Joolie
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... ml#msg2064
And I also did a search for joomla and jumla last night (norwegian time) not long after the name was made public, and did not find any post with these 2 names from August 21st or earlier
And since both joomla.org and joomla.com was registered August 21st 2005 (Just do a whois searc, and you can see).
Also makes me think that the "core team" or the "World class PR firm" have come up with this name without any regards to all the ideas that have come from this community.
I was seriously understanding that this name selection would be a "community" decision, not only a "core" decision?
Was not this one of the big reasons "we all" came here from Mambo and Miro, to have a say in extremely important issues like this?
With all the "know how & brainpower" that this community have, it would not have taken much "work" from the "core" to have made available a community vote that would not have shown any results before a given date.
And especially since several members did do most of the work by collection, sorting and made most of the name suggestions available at this URL:
So, please point me to the post, and honor the member that came up with this name or idea, since I do not seem to find it anywhere on this place.
And I also did a search for joomla and jumla last night (norwegian time) not long after the name was made public, and did not find any post with these 2 names from August 21st or earlier.
This community member have also written, and much better than I could, many of the issues I have with the new name:
http://forum.opensourcematters.org/inde ... l#msg25718
This new "name" does not have a nice sound in Norwegian, and I have also seen that other Scandinavian countries does not take very well to this name either.
So I can only think that this "world class PR firm" does not have much knowledge about non English speaking countries.
If I was only going to use J**mla for a personal site, I would not give a sh... about this name.
But since I have now, for the last 6 months working on going "commercial" with Mambo, this new name just makes me want to give it up, because the name, or the brand name is very important if you want to sell something to people who do not know anything about this.
And trying to sell this name in Norwegian, a name that for me, looks like no one in this community know how to pronounce, will not be easy, impossible.
Off course I can keep using Mambo, but what is Mambo with out it's 3DP contribution.
Just another CMS.
It's the 3DP that makes Mambo/J**mla so unique!
So can please the "core team" answer the community where this name came from?
And why was not the "community" involved in this decision?
Was this not one of the biggest arguments for the "community" to break from Mambo/Miro, that the community was not taken into consideration about important decisions like this?
Or is this issue just another "legal reason" so we can not say anything?
Sorry for my English, It's not my native language.
A very disappointed Mambo user regarding the new name J**mla.
And please, drop the "!" exclamation mark!!!!!!!!!!!!