Hide Login Menu Item to Logged In Users

[saxman1815]

I have a login menu item in my main menu. Access level is set to Public. My problem is that when my users login, they still see the login menu item (as well as the logout menu item, which is set to registered only).

I have checked and double checked my access levels. I have public (which is set to the public group only) and I have registered (which is set to only show to the registered group). I realize that registered is a parent of public, but I know there is a way to hide the login item to logged in users, because I have done it before. I just can't remember for the life of me how I accomplished this. I have checked everything I can think to check on my other site, but still can't remember how to do this.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

[rcarey]

Assuming you are using 2.5.x, you need to create a group for non registered users (with the parent being Public) This group is supplied in Joomla 3.0. Then go to User Manager -> Options. Under the Component tab set Guest User Group to the group that is to be assigned to anyone not logged in (but it is not assigned to any logged in users).

Create a new access level "Guest" and the only group assigned to it is this guest group. Then on the menu item, select the access level to Guest. That should accomplish what you want.

[ppetree]

I hate to zombie this but how do you do this in 3.x?

[rcarey]

The difference in 3.x is that it already comes with a Guest usergroup and access level, so you do not need to create these in 3.x as you need to in 2.5. So as stated previously, just set the menu item's access level to Guest.

[greenbean]

I must have removed my Guest Group. Here's what I did, works like a charm. Joomla 3.5.1
Created a new article called "Welcome" and set everything except the title to hide.
Created a new article called "Good Bye" and set everything except the title to hide.

I had a hidden menu, if you don't you will need to create one. (you need to do this so you do not get the message access denied after your guest has logged in)

Menus --> hidden menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> Article --> Single Article --> Welcome --> Access Public --> Set everything to hide except the title
Menu Item Type --> Article --> Single Article --> Good Bye--> Access Pulbic --> Set everything to hide except the title
Menu Item Type --> Users --> Login Form --> Access Public --> Set redirect to your Welcome Page
Menu Item Type --> Users --> Logout --> Access Public --> Set redirect to your Welcome Page

Users --> Manage --> User Groups
Created a new group "Guest" with the parent "Public"
Created a new Viewing Access Level "Guest" having access to Guest
Users --> Manage --> Options (the gear on the right)
Guest Group set to "Guest"
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Menus --> Main Menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> System Links --> Menu Alias --> Hidden Menu --> Login Form
Set the Access (on the right) to "Guest"
Publish...
Now you have a login menu item that only displays when users are not logged in! Brilliant.
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One more piece
Menus --> Main Menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> System Links --> Menu Alias --> Hidden Menu --> Logout
Set the Access (on the right) to "Registered"

Now your logged in users can easily log out, and your not logged in users can easily login.

[Gpgrant]

Brilliant! Thanks for writing this up. Works perfectly.

[greenbean]

Glad you found it helpful. I can't edit my original post, but in re-reading I see a mistake.
Menu Item Type --> Users --> Logout --> Access Public --> Set redirect to your Goodbye Page (not your welcome page)

[Gpgrant]

yea I figured that one out. I spent 2 hours on this today before seeing your post so again...BIG THANKS

[Gpgrant]

p.s. I don't know if I'd call myself a "fledgling"...I'm not that bad.

[greenbean]

You are welcome. I'm not sure who sets the status on the users. I've been using Joomla since 1.5 (10 years)... I think my status changed recently to Apprentice.

[DaveOzric]

The difference in 3.x is that it already comes with a Guest usergroup and access level, so you do not need to create these in 3.x as you need to in 2.5. So as stated previously, just set the menu item's access level to Guest.

Easy and very unknown feature. I did not realize J2.5 did not have this too.

[TerryVog]

I don't want the login form to appear in an aside. So I made a separate page for it, have the login form module only show up on this page, and I made a menu item in the main menu that refers to it. Then I set the login menu item to show only to guests.

This kind of works. When I click on the login menu item, I get the page with the login form. I fill in my username and password. And the login menu item disappears like I intended. But I also get an error message, saying that I am trying to see a page for which I don't have the right privileges. Which makes sense, because I became a registered user and I just decided that only guests should see this.

If I would be the only user on my site, this wouldn't bother me, because I logged in successfully and I understand why the error message is there. But when the site goes live, I don't want the other registered users to be confused about this.

Is there a way to redirect to another page, immediately after logging in?

[BeauSanders]

Thank you, Greenbean, for your help on this problem. I just completed the fix you outline above in J3.6.5 and it works great.

I changed the titles of the Welcome and Goodbye articles to make them read a little better for our site. I kept the article aliases welcome and goodbye for simplicity.

You can see the fruits of my labor on this project at https://greenvillehigh1966.com.

Thank you for sharing this with our Joomla community.

-BeauSanders

[greenbean]

Hey! Nice work... 50th reunion! Glad I could be of assistance. These forums have saved me many hours.

[GODpleasers]

Assuming you are using 2.5.x, you need to create a group for non registered users (with the parent being Public) This group is supplied in Joomla 3.0. Then go to User Manager -> Options. Under the Component tab set Guest User Group to the group that is to be assigned to anyone not logged in (but it is not assigned to any logged in users).

Create a new access level "Guest" and the only group assigned to it is this guest group. Then on the menu item, select the access level to Guest. That should accomplish what you want.

Joomla 3.7.2 here.

Worked perfectly thank you. :-)

[Linguaz]

Menus --> hidden menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> Users --> Logout --> Access Public --> Set redirect to your Welcome Page

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One more piece
Menus --> Main Menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> System Links --> Menu Alias --> Hidden Menu --> Logout
Set the Access (on the right) to "Registered"

Thank you very much greenbean, that was very useful! Here is a simplification that should give the same result: omit the first step quoted above and in the second step there is no need to refer to the Logout in the hidden menu, i.e.:

Menus --> Main Menu --> New Item
Menu Item Type --> Users --> Logout.

PS: I like the motto at the end of your posts

[greenbean]

11 years later, I have an update.
Setting a menu item access to "Guest" requires that the user group Guest is set to access level Guest. By default it is set to public. To fix this before you get started on creating your login/logout menu options make sure that your Guest Group is set to "Guest"...
Users --> Manage --> Options (the gear on the right)
Guest Group set to "Guest"