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Commercial Joomla

Post by PaddyOhOgain » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Hi all,

I am new here ;) I used Joomla some years ago for a web project and I was considering maybe using it again.

When I visited the site today I notice a large button at the top it says 'Launch'

I clicked launch and had a website running in no time at all, it is fast and seems good.

But what are the actual pros and cons?

The free launch is very limited which is fine after all it is free, so should I upgrade? Were I to upgrade (cloudaccess request $5 per month to upgrade to 'Mini') The Mini subscription seems pathetically limited, would I be better to pay for a shared hosting plan with a provider like site ground usually also in or about $5 per month?

Could Joomla prolifically disfigure or destroy the initial ideal or concept of OpenSource simply by providing a prominent link to a commercial company?

Is Joomla moving further away from our OpenSource community, it would be a shame to lose it.

Regards,

Paddy

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Re: Commercial Joomla

Post by sozzled » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:56 pm

PaddyOhOgain wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:27 pm
Is Joomla moving further away from our OpenSource community?
The short answer is no. Joomla remains open source and freely available. Obviously, maintaining the resources that go into supporting the Joomla community don't come without some cost and, even though the website(s) maintained by joomla.org contain some level of advertising, the advertising is not in-your-face or aggressive like you might find elsewhere.

The revenue obtained by OSM—the organisation behind Joomla—is used to foster, promote and financially assist programs around the world that that people, keen to pursue a career in web development, participate in. So, while there are linkages between these websites and commercial enterprises such as the one behind joomla.com (or Launch, as you described it), there isn't a push to transform Joomla into a proprietary software company like Microsoft or Apple (for example).

The free Launch feature allows people to experiment with J! at zero cost but, initially, that's what it was intended to do. If people want to go beyond the "demo phase", beyond a trial period, and use the service to create a full-fledged platform for their own businesses, they can use the service to achieve that. Apparently there are a lot of people who do that.

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Re: Commercial Joomla

Post by PaddyOhOgain » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:29 pm

Thank you for your reply sozzled,
sozzled wrote: The short answer is no. Joomla remains open source and freely available.
It is good to hear that from such an established veteran.

My test site is running very well on 'Launch' it is very convenient due to its dedication, I would be tempted to upgrade but the single database restriction puts me off.

Thanks again!

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Re: Commercial Joomla

Post by gws » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:33 pm

You only need one database per site....

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Re: Commercial Joomla

Post by Webdongle » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:08 pm

Download the latest version from https://downloads.joomla.org/
Then install it on localhost on your PC and use Akeeba to move the site to a Host
Or install it directly on your Host server

http://www.wampserver.com/en/
https://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Installing_Joomla
https://docs.joomla.org/Copying_a_Joomla_website
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Re: Commercial Joomla

Post by PaddyOhOgain » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Thank you gws.

I am more familiar with standard shared hosting services but am interested in exploring the dedicated 'Launch' system for convenience with single site projects, it is fast to set up and seems very low maintenance, it could be ideal for people with limited technical knowledge who like to update certain aspects of their site on an ongoing basis.

As I say the test site I set up works very well, but suppose this scenario, for some projects I need to add e-commerce, as a rule rather than use a Joomla extension I would employ Abante, OpenCart, or maybe CubeCart sometimes as a sub-domain or maybe a folder under the original domain, for this I like to use a separate database. I haven't tested yet but do you think this type of set-up would work well on 'Launch' with one database?

Thank you Webdongle,

Yes I have the latest stable Version of Joomla 3.9.1 and run it locally with PHP V 7.3.0 I use jQuery V 3.3.1 and Bootstrap V 2.3.2, I never use Akeeba I prefer straightforward FTP.
I am not a professional developer but oft-times help friends, acquaintances, local organisations or clubs to set-up their projects, I think the 'Launch' facility could be useful and very convenient for me in such situations especially if there is no e-commerce needed. When I say e-commerce it is often just subscriptions, membership renewal, or donations especially with local community organisations, nevertheless I do like to keep control over that aspect of the installation whilst allowing full control of the main site's content to the project managers. The inability to have more than one database seems inhibiting to me, what do you think?

Is this a valid place for this topic? I am not requesting support but ask for opinion about an actual infrastructural matter of or presented on the official Joomla website?

Regards,

Paddy


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