Extensions search - useless
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Extensions search - useless
First - i am developing Joomla extensions for more than 10 years. I have great extensions that people like. I have few extensions on JED. But the JED search is driving me crazy.
The suggestion option (when you type in some keywords, suggestions pop-up) suggesting extensions names - by my opinion it is absolutely useless. I suppose that more than half of users have no idea of any extension name and they are searching by some keywords. For example, if i want to embed a Facebook feed on my Joomla website i will search for "facebook feed". And if i will input this in the JED search field - i will get several suggestions pop-up with the specific extensions that this search engine found. But users, that use other search engines like Google, Bing, etc. know that search provide keyword suggestions, not specific websites. So i would click on the suggestion and miss all the other extensions on JED just because of the extension's name. It would be better if this suggestion option suggested the keywords. If not - it is better to be removed at all.
But wait, there's more: if you are tenacious enough, you will get to the search results and you will see there that all extensions are sorted by the amount of keywords entries in the extension's description. There are many ways that the extension's search can be improved. For example, accordance for specific keyword to click rate in search results. There are many articles of how great search engines like Google work. It is better to combine several criteria to avoid manipulation of the search results.
Please check for yourself the results for "facebook feed" keyword. You will see in top results extensions like "Facebook Page Widget" which description is super keyword spammed. And it has only one review, telling that this extension doesn't work. I think that for the user that searches suitable extension, this extension must be in the end of the list.
The suggestion option (when you type in some keywords, suggestions pop-up) suggesting extensions names - by my opinion it is absolutely useless. I suppose that more than half of users have no idea of any extension name and they are searching by some keywords. For example, if i want to embed a Facebook feed on my Joomla website i will search for "facebook feed". And if i will input this in the JED search field - i will get several suggestions pop-up with the specific extensions that this search engine found. But users, that use other search engines like Google, Bing, etc. know that search provide keyword suggestions, not specific websites. So i would click on the suggestion and miss all the other extensions on JED just because of the extension's name. It would be better if this suggestion option suggested the keywords. If not - it is better to be removed at all.
But wait, there's more: if you are tenacious enough, you will get to the search results and you will see there that all extensions are sorted by the amount of keywords entries in the extension's description. There are many ways that the extension's search can be improved. For example, accordance for specific keyword to click rate in search results. There are many articles of how great search engines like Google work. It is better to combine several criteria to avoid manipulation of the search results.
Please check for yourself the results for "facebook feed" keyword. You will see in top results extensions like "Facebook Page Widget" which description is super keyword spammed. And it has only one review, telling that this extension doesn't work. I think that for the user that searches suitable extension, this extension must be in the end of the list.
- anibal_sanchez
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Hi,
We are planning an update to the search engine in the following months.
You have the motivation to write a forum topic. So, you are in your way to improve our search engine.
Feel free to join the team that it is going to work on the update. Beyond coding (we already have the search technology provided by Algolia), we need people to check search cases and provide feedback.
Fun in JED: bug smashing and feature development [Updated]
https://extensions.joomla.org/blog/item ... velopment/
P.S. How do you express a disagreement? https://magazine.joomla.org/issues/issu ... sagreement
Best regards
We are planning an update to the search engine in the following months.
You have the motivation to write a forum topic. So, you are in your way to improve our search engine.
Feel free to join the team that it is going to work on the update. Beyond coding (we already have the search technology provided by Algolia), we need people to check search cases and provide feedback.
Fun in JED: bug smashing and feature development [Updated]
https://extensions.joomla.org/blog/item ... velopment/
P.S. How do you express a disagreement? https://magazine.joomla.org/issues/issu ... sagreement
Best regards
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Hi. How can i join the team that will work on this update?
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Hi,
We coordinate our tasks in Glip: https://glip.com/joomla
Pls, open an account and I'll guide you in the onboarding process.
Thanks
We coordinate our tasks in Glip: https://glip.com/joomla
Pls, open an account and I'll guide you in the onboarding process.
Thanks
@anibal_sanchez - Former JED Team Leader.
Prefix PHP Libraries & Projects: https://php-prefixer.com
My Extensions: https://extly.com
Prefix PHP Libraries & Projects: https://php-prefixer.com
My Extensions: https://extly.com
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Done. My account is: [ redacted ]
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Re: Extensions search - useless
anibal_sanchez, i am still waiting.
- anibal_sanchez
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Check Glip PM
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@anibal_sanchez - Former JED Team Leader.
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My Extensions: https://extly.com
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My Extensions: https://extly.com
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Re: Extensions search - useless
Nothing...
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Re: Extensions search - useless
zyx did you manage to join the JED developement team?
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