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Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Fri May 17, 2019 12:03 am

Can anyone help me understand why my _session table fill up even though my handler is PHP in Global Config? I am seeing this happen for guests visiting and users logged in for several sites running the below versions. Is this being overwritten by a setting from another application in Joomla?

Joomla! 3.9.6 Stable
PHP 7.2.14
MySQL 5.7.25

I can do fpa if someone asks for it. Thanks

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by sozzled » Fri May 17, 2019 12:19 am

Please do FPA. Thanks.

Suggest that you temporarily, at least, disable all server-side caching, clear all server, browser and proxy caches (the last-mentioned, if applicable). Possibly consider using SQL TRUNCATE command on the _sessions table.
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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Fri May 17, 2019 12:38 am

Done. I am not using cache, I can try the truncate later tomorrow. Can you explain the proxy cache? Thanks
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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by Per Yngve Berg » Fri May 17, 2019 6:38 am

Max. Upload Size: 32M | Max. POST Size: 8M

Post size must be larger than upload size.

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Fri May 17, 2019 11:50 am

Per Yngve Berg wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 6:38 am
Max. Upload Size: 32M | Max. POST Size: 8M

Post size must be larger than upload size.
Hi, I changed the post value to be 0 so its unlimited now

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Sat May 18, 2019 5:02 pm

Per Yngve Berg wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 6:38 am
Max. Upload Size: 32M | Max. POST Size: 8M

Post size must be larger than upload size.
So can anyone explain why my session tables still fill up?

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Mon May 20, 2019 12:24 pm

So what do i need to do to get better support on here...is it no one is familiar with this or am I missing info that I didn't read over before posting? I have a major issue here and need help..

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by gws » Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Investigate why the FPA shows session handler as none.

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Mon May 20, 2019 3:38 pm

gws wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm
Investigate why the FPA shows session handler as none.
? Doesn't none mean PHP? If so it's right...

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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by sozzled » Mon May 20, 2019 8:24 pm

@gws: "none" is the value Joomla writes to configuration.php when PHP session handler is selected. FPA only reports what it finds.

@urzh: did you TRUNCATE the _session table? What is your "major issue"?
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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Mon May 20, 2019 8:41 pm

sozzled wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 8:24 pm
@gws: "none" is the value Joomla writes to configuration.php when PHP session handler is selected. FPA only reports what it finds.

@urzh: did you TRUNCATE the _session table? What is your "major issue"?
@sozzled hi...yes, I did this on one DB. It cleared the rows but still the _sessions table is filling up when registered or guest visits the site.

My major issue I believe is related to this: viewtopic.php?f=708&t=971939


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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by sozzled » Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 am

Sorry. My PC crashed and I've spent the past 36 hours rebuilding it. I won't be much help to anyone for another few days.

My guess (and I'm taking a wild guess) is that there's some kind of caching involved here ... but I don't know what it is.
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Re: Changed session handler to PHP, but _session keeps populating

Post by urzh » Tue May 21, 2019 12:51 pm

sozzled wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:54 am
Sorry. My PC crashed and I've spent the past 36 hours rebuilding it. I won't be much help to anyone for another few days.

My guess (and I'm taking a wild guess) is that there's some kind of caching involved here ... but I don't know what it is.
@sozzled thanks. One thing I am noticing, I was playing around with table_open_cache = 400 in my.cnf. Seems after I reduced this size from 800 to 400, I am not seeing the errors anymore reported here:

viewtopic.php?f=708&t=971939

Only mentioning this because it's cache. Below is my my.cnf config :

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# Example MySQL config file for medium systems.
#
# This is for a system with little memory (32M - 64M) where MySQL plays
# an important part, or systems up to 128M where MySQL is used together with
# other programs (such as a web server)
#
# You can copy this file to
# /etc/my.cnf to set global options,
# mysql-data-dir/my.cnf to set server-specific options (in this
# installation this directory is /Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP PRO/db/mysql57) or
# ~/.my.cnf to set user-specific options.
#
# In this file, you can use all long options that a program supports.
# If you want to know which options a program supports, run the program
# with the "--help" option.

# The following options will be passed to all MySQL clients
[client]
password    = MAMP_root_password_MAMP
#port		= 9999
socket		= /Applications/MAMP/tmp/mysql/mysql.sock

# Here follows entries for some specific programs

# The MySQL server
[mysqld]
#port		= 9999
socket		= /Applications/MAMP/tmp/mysql/mysql.sock
key_buffer_size = 64M
max_allowed_packet = 500M

#general_log = 1
#general_log_file = '/Applications/MAMP/logs/mysql_general.log'

#slow_query_log = 1
#slow_query_log_file = '/Applications/MAMP/logs/mysql_slow_query.log'
#long_query_time = 1


log_timestamps = SYSTEM
explicit_defaults_for_timestamp = 1

connect_timeout = 50
interactive_timeout = 350
wait_timeout = 300
max_connections = 400
max_heap_table_size = 6G
tmp_table_size = 6G
table_open_cache = 400



MAMP_bind-address_MAMP

# Don't listen on a TCP/IP port at all. This can be a security enhancement,
# if all processes that need to connect to mysqld run on the same host.
# All interaction with mysqld must be made via Unix sockets or named pipes.
# Note that using this option without enabling named pipes on Windows
# (via the "enable-named-pipe" option) will render mysqld useless!
# 
MAMP_skip-networking_MAMP

# Disabling symbolic-links is recommended to prevent assorted security risks
symbolic-links=0

# Set it to a directory to allow importing and exporting data only from that directory.
# If secure-file-priv is set to NULL operations related to importing and exporting data are disabled.
# Setting secure-file-priv to "" is insecure. 
secure_file_priv=""

# lower_case_table_names are automatically set to 2 if the file system for /Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP PRO/db/mysql57/ is case insensitive.
# lower_case_table_names=2

# Replication Master Server (default)
# binary logging is required for replication
#log-bin=mysql-bin

# required unique id between 1 and 2^32 - 1
# defaults to 1 if master-host is not set
# but will not function as a master if omitted
server-id	= 1

# Replication Slave (comment out master section to use this)
#
# To configure this host as a replication slave, you can choose between
# two methods :
#
# 1) Use the CHANGE MASTER TO command (fully described in our manual) -
#    the syntax is:
#
#    CHANGE MASTER TO MASTER_HOST=<host>, MASTER_PORT=<port>,
#    MASTER_USER=<user>, MASTER_PASSWORD=<password> ;
#
#    where you replace <host>, <user>, <password> by quoted strings and
#    <port> by the master's port number (3306 by default).
#
#    Example:
#
#    CHANGE MASTER TO MASTER_HOST='125.564.12.1', MASTER_PORT=3306,
#    MASTER_USER='joe', MASTER_PASSWORD='secret';
#
# OR
#
# 2) Set the variables below. However, in case you choose this method, then
#    start replication for the first time (even unsuccessfully, for example
#    if you mistyped the password in master-password and the slave fails to
#    connect), the slave will create a master.info file, and any later
#    change in this file to the variables' values below will be ignored and
#    overridden by the content of the master.info file, unless you shutdown
#    the slave server, delete master.info and restart the slaver server.
#    For that reason, you may want to leave the lines below untouched
#    (commented) and instead use CHANGE MASTER TO (see above)
#
# required unique id between 2 and 2^32 - 1
# (and different from the master)
# defaults to 2 if master-host is set
# but will not function as a slave if omitted
#server-id       = 2
#
# The replication master for this slave - required
#master-host     =   <hostname>
#
# The username the slave will use for authentication when connecting
# to the master - required
#master-user     =   <username>
#
# The password the slave will authenticate with when connecting to
# the master - required
#master-password =   <password>
#
# The port the master is listening on.
# optional - defaults to 3306
#master-port     =  <port>
#
# binary logging - not required for slaves, but recommended
#log-bin=mysql-bin

# Point the following paths to different dedicated disks
#tmpdir		= /tmp/		
#log-update 	= /path-to-dedicated-directory/hostname

# Uncomment the following if you are using BDB tables
#bdb_cache_size = 4M
#bdb_max_lock = 10000

#innodb_data_home_dir = "/Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP PRO/db/mysql57"
#innodb_data_file_path = ibdata1:10M:autoextend
#innodb_log_group_home_dir = "/Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP PRO/db/mysql57"

# Set to the amount of RAM for the most important data cache in MySQL.
# Start at 70% of total RAM for a dedicated server, else 10%.
innodb_buffer_pool_size = 22G

#innodb_log_file_size = 5M
#innodb_log_buffer_size = 16M
#innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 1
#innodb_lock_wait_timeout = 50

# log_bin is a very important data integrity option: logging
# changes to the binary log between backups.
#log_bin

innodb_buffer_pool_instances = 8
innodb_flush_method = O_DIRECT
sync_binlog = 0

# Remove leading # to set the next options mainly useful for reporting servers.
# The server defaults are faster for transactions and fast SELECTs.
# Adjust sizes as needed, experiment to find the optimal values.
# join_buffer_size = 128M
# sort_buffer_size = 2M
# read_rnd_buffer_size = 2M

# see https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html for more information
#innodb_force_recovery = 2

[mysqldump]
password = MAMP_root_password_MAMP
quick
max_allowed_packet = 16M

[mysql]
no-auto-rehash
# Remove the next comment character if you are not familiar with SQL
#safe-updates

[isamchk]
key_buffer = 20M
sort_buffer_size = 20M
read_buffer = 2M
write_buffer = 2M

[myisamchk]
key_buffer = 20M
sort_buffer_size = 20M
read_buffer = 2M
write_buffer = 2M
myisam_sort_buffer_size = 8M

[mysqlhotcopy]
interactive-timeout

# DONT REMOVE: MAMP PRO my57.cnf template compatibility version: 14


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