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Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Google Search Console has sent me a email for every one of my websites stating:
Fix Breadcrumbs markup for [website]
The details state [Missing field "item"]. I look at the code and it has [itemprop="item"]. I don't see anything wrong.
Has the Google Search Console acquired a 'bug'? Is anyone else seeing this? I have no idea what to do.
Fix Breadcrumbs markup for [website]
The details state [Missing field "item"]. I look at the code and it has [itemprop="item"]. I don't see anything wrong.
Has the Google Search Console acquired a 'bug'? Is anyone else seeing this? I have no idea what to do.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
I have the same problem reported by Google Search Console. Also, "Missing field "itemListElement"."
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Fix Breadcrumbs markups Emails from Google
Today I received about 50 emails from google with the following message:
Fix Breadcrumbs markup for "myxwebsite.com" (example url only)
Google systems show that your site is affected by 15 instances of Breadcrumbs markup issues. This means that your Breadcrumbs pages might not appear as rich results in Google Search.
Search Console has created a new report just for this rich result type. The new report enables you to identify, fix, and resubmit affected pages to Google so they can start appearing in Search Results with rich result features.
My question is this: isn't the templates already incorporating this?
If not, I will have to fix a lot of clients websites.
Fix Breadcrumbs markup for "myxwebsite.com" (example url only)
Google systems show that your site is affected by 15 instances of Breadcrumbs markup issues. This means that your Breadcrumbs pages might not appear as rich results in Google Search.
Search Console has created a new report just for this rich result type. The new report enables you to identify, fix, and resubmit affected pages to Google so they can start appearing in Search Results with rich result features.
My question is this: isn't the templates already incorporating this?
If not, I will have to fix a lot of clients websites.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Same here
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Same here.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Seems most my websites received the same email and nobody knows what it's about.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
The error originates from the last item in the breadcrumps list that are not shown as a link.
The error goes away when Show Last Entry=No is set in the module's options.
The error goes away when Show Last Entry=No is set in the module's options.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markups Emails from Google
There's a fix being made for it:
Fix microdata for the last breadcrumb item #26268
https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/26268
It's needs to be tested by one person before it can be put in a Joomla update.
Maybe you could help out testing the patch?
If it gets in the next Joomla update, then you won't have to patch your client websites manually
Fix microdata for the last breadcrumb item #26268
https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pull/26268
It's needs to be tested by one person before it can be put in a Joomla update.
Maybe you could help out testing the patch?
If it gets in the next Joomla update, then you won't have to patch your client websites manually
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Many thanks, Per Yngve Berg, for the discovery.
I think it would be nice if Google would not require the suppression of the last item in the Breadcrumb List to avoid the errors. If there is no link, then don't produce the error.
I spend a lot of time trying to satisfy Google's expectations; especially with structured data / micro data.
I think it would be nice if Google would not require the suppression of the last item in the Breadcrumb List to avoid the errors. If there is no link, then don't produce the error.
I spend a lot of time trying to satisfy Google's expectations; especially with structured data / micro data.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markups Emails from Google
Actually...
ChristineWk commented 10 days ago
"I have tested this item successfully on 035c38b"
If it's been tested successfully, when will the update be issued? I'm being bombarded by those emails too.
ChristineWk commented 10 days ago
"I have tested this item successfully on 035c38b"
If it's been tested successfully, when will the update be issued? I'm being bombarded by those emails too.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Thank you to everyone for this discussion.
I've never been a big fan of the standard J! breadcrumbs module.
Let's say you have a web-page where the breadcrumbs appear like this
You are here: Home › XYZ › ABC
When you submit this URL to GSC, the SERP, however, appears as
<domain-name> › XYZ
So, while the PR "appeases" GSC's tightening of the rules in connection with the schema, the result (as far as what appears in Google is concerned) is not exactly a particularly flattering experience. If other websites can do it "properly" why can't Joomla "out of the box"?
Microdata inclusions are for websites are relatively recent for and they're still evolving. Such features were absent (or severely lacking) in earlier versions of J! 3.x. It's taken a few years to catch up. I'm only saying that, until the standard J! breadcrumbs module is able to generate "pretty" microdata (in ways that other third-party extensions or other CMS-es have been doing for several years) then the standard J! breadcrumbs module, even with the fix, is a second-rate feature IMO.
So, no, I can't add my voice to the "tested satisfactorily" category. The PR hides the problem; it doesn't solve it.
I've never been a big fan of the standard J! breadcrumbs module.
Let's say you have a web-page where the breadcrumbs appear like this
You are here: Home › XYZ › ABC
When you submit this URL to GSC, the SERP, however, appears as
<domain-name> › XYZ
So, while the PR "appeases" GSC's tightening of the rules in connection with the schema, the result (as far as what appears in Google is concerned) is not exactly a particularly flattering experience. If other websites can do it "properly" why can't Joomla "out of the box"?
Microdata inclusions are for websites are relatively recent for and they're still evolving. Such features were absent (or severely lacking) in earlier versions of J! 3.x. It's taken a few years to catch up. I'm only saying that, until the standard J! breadcrumbs module is able to generate "pretty" microdata (in ways that other third-party extensions or other CMS-es have been doing for several years) then the standard J! breadcrumbs module, even with the fix, is a second-rate feature IMO.
So, no, I can't add my voice to the "tested satisfactorily" category. The PR hides the problem; it doesn't solve it.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
I have some code that will satisfy Google, but the problem is that $item->link is empty.
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<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem" class="active">
<span itemprop="item" itemprop="id" content="<?php echo $item->link; ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
@Per: where would you add/change this code? Do you mean to replace lines 47-53 with your code?
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
It's the "render last" starting at line 63.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Sorry, @Per, but this doesn't work ... that is GSC shows an "invalid item"
Here is the entire default.php file (with your change included)Have I made your change incorrectly?
Here is the entire default.php file (with your change included)
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<?php
/**
* @package Joomla.Site
* @subpackage mod_breadcrumbs
*
* @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 - 2019 Open Source Matters, Inc. All rights reserved.
* @license GNU General Public License version 2 or later; see LICENSE.txt
*/
defined('_JEXEC') or die;
?>
<div aria-label="<?php echo $module->name; ?>" role="navigation">
<ul itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb<?php echo $moduleclass_sfx; ?>">
<?php if ($params->get('showHere', 1)) : ?>
<li>
<?php echo JText::_('MOD_BREADCRUMBS_HERE'); ?> 
</li>
<?php else : ?>
<li class="active">
<span class="divider icon-location"></span>
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php
// Get rid of duplicated entries on trail including home page when using multilanguage
for ($i = 0; $i < $count; $i++)
{
if ($i === 1 && !empty($list[$i]->link) && !empty($list[$i - 1]->link) && $list[$i]->link === $list[$i - 1]->link)
{
unset($list[$i]);
}
}
// Find last and penultimate items in breadcrumbs list
end($list);
$last_item_key = key($list);
prev($list);
$penult_item_key = key($list);
// Make a link if not the last item in the breadcrumbs
$show_last = $params->get('showLast', 1);
// Generate the trail
foreach ($list as $key => $item) :
if ($key !== $last_item_key) :
// Render all but last item - along with separator ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<?php if (!empty($item->link)) : ?>
<a itemprop="item" href="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" class="pathway">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</a>
<?php else : ?>
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php if (($key !== $penult_item_key) || $show_last) : ?>
<span class="divider">
<?php echo $separator; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php elseif ($show_last) :
// Render last item if reqd. ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem" class="active">
<span itemprop="item" itemprop="id" content="<?php echo $item->link; ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li> <?php endif; ?>
<?php endforeach; ?>
</ul>
</div>
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
No, you have done it correctly. The problem is that $item->link is empty for the last item. It should have contained a link. That problem must be somewhere else in the code.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Can you save me the time to figure out what you mean and post the whole file here, please?
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Now it suddenly works! (<span itemprop="item" content="/lokalavdelinger/oslo">)
Here is the file:
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<ul itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb">
<li>
Du er her:
</li>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<a itemprop="item" href="/lokalavdelinger" class="pathway"><span itemprop="name">Lokalavdelinger</span></a>
<span class="divider">
<img src="/media/system/images/arrow.png" alt=""> </span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="1">
</li>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem" class="active">
<span itemprop="item" content="/lokalavdelinger/oslo">
<span itemprop="name">
Oslo </span>
</span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="2">
</li>
</ul>
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<?php
/**
* @package Joomla.Site
* @subpackage mod_breadcrumbs
*
* @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 - 2019 Open Source Matters, Inc. All rights reserved.
* @license GNU General Public License version 2 or later; see LICENSE.txt
*/
defined('_JEXEC') or die;
?>
<div aria-label="<?php echo $module->name; ?>" role="navigation">
<ul itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb<?php echo $moduleclass_sfx; ?>">
<?php if ($params->get('showHere', 1)) : ?>
<li>
<?php echo JText::_('MOD_BREADCRUMBS_HERE'); ?> 
</li>
<?php else : ?>
<li class="active">
<span class="divider icon-location"></span>
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php
// Get rid of duplicated entries on trail including home page when using multilanguage
for ($i = 0; $i < $count; $i++)
{
if ($i === 1 && !empty($list[$i]->link) && !empty($list[$i - 1]->link) && $list[$i]->link === $list[$i - 1]->link)
{
unset($list[$i]);
}
}
// Find last and penultimate items in breadcrumbs list
end($list);
$last_item_key = key($list);
prev($list);
$penult_item_key = key($list);
// Make a link if not the last item in the breadcrumbs
$show_last = $params->get('showLast', 1);
// Generate the trail
foreach ($list as $key => $item) :
if ($key !== $last_item_key) :
// Render all but last item - along with separator ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<?php if (!empty($item->link)) : ?>
<a itemprop="item" href="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" class="pathway"><span itemprop="name"><?php echo $item->name; ?></span></a>
<?php else : ?>
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php if (($key !== $penult_item_key) || $show_last) : ?>
<span class="divider">
<?php echo $separator; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php elseif ($show_last) :
// Render last item if reqd. ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem" class="active">
<span itemprop="item" itemprop="id" content="<?php echo $item->link; ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php endif;
endforeach; ?>
</ul>
</div>
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Damned if I can make it work, @Per!GSC reports an error (see screeshot).
Thanks for your time, even if I'm struggling with GSC:
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<div aria-label="breadcrumbs" role="navigation">
<ul itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb">
<li>
You are here:  
</li>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<a itemprop="item" href="/" class="pathway"><span itemprop="name">Home</span></a>
<span class="divider">
<img src="/media/system/images/arrow.png" alt="" /> </span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="1">
</li>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<a itemprop="item" href="/blog" class="pathway"><span itemprop="name">Blog</span></a>
<span class="divider">
<img src="/media/system/images/arrow.png" alt="" /> </span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="2">
</li>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem" class="active">
<span itemprop="item" itemprop="id" content="">
<span itemprop="name">
Prelude to the beginning </span>
</span>
<meta itemprop="position" content="3">
</li>
</ul>
</div>
Thanks for your time, even if I'm struggling with GSC:
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Hello,
I changed the code of default.php of mod_breadcrumbs to validate in case of a non link for the last item.
There are also two new switches that would need a setting in the xml file.
showShadowLink, default to 0, to not show the menu heading that does not come with a link.
showLastItemAsLink, defau.t to 0, to show the last item/active page as a link.
I have not tested all combinations, but it works for my case in the Google Structured Data Testing Tool.
I would be happy about comments to this.
Thanks
Stefan
EDIT: like before without showShadowLink
EDIT:
This one is with get('showShadowLink', 0)) to hide the menu heading without link. I would prefer this way.
I changed the code of default.php of mod_breadcrumbs to validate in case of a non link for the last item.
There are also two new switches that would need a setting in the xml file.
showShadowLink, default to 0, to not show the menu heading that does not come with a link.
showLastItemAsLink, defau.t to 0, to show the last item/active page as a link.
I have not tested all combinations, but it works for my case in the Google Structured Data Testing Tool.
I would be happy about comments to this.
Thanks
Stefan
EDIT: like before without showShadowLink
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<?php
/**
* @package Joomla.Site
* @subpackage mod_breadcrumbs
*
* @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 - 2019 Open Source Matters, Inc. All rights reserved.
* @license GNU General Public License version 2 or later; see LICENSE.txt
*/
defined('_JEXEC') or die;
?>
<div aria-label="<?php echo $module->name; ?>" role="navigation">
<ul itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb<?php echo $moduleclass_sfx; ?>">
<?php if ($params->get('showHere', 1)) : ?>
<li>
<?php echo JText::_('MOD_BREADCRUMBS_HERE'); ?> 
</li>
<?php else : ?>
<li class="active">
<span class="divider icon-location"></span>
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php
// Get rid of duplicated entries on trail including home page when using multilanguage
for ($i = 0; $i < $count; $i++)
{
if ($i === 1 && !empty($list[$i]->link) && !empty($list[$i - 1]->link) && $list[$i]->link === $list[$i - 1]->link)
{
unset($list[$i]);
}
}
// Find last and penultimate items in breadcrumbs list
end($list);
$last_item_key = key($list);
prev($list);
$penult_item_key = key($list);
// Make a link if not the last item in the breadcrumbs
$show_last = $params->get('showLast', 1);
// Generate the trail
foreach ($list as $key => $item) :
if ($key !== $last_item_key) :
// Render all but last item - along with separator ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<?php if (!empty($item->link)) : ?>
<a itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" href="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" itemid="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" class="pathway">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</a>
<?php else : ?>
<span itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php if (($key !== $penult_item_key) || $show_last) : ?>
<span class="divider">
<?php echo $separator; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php elseif ($show_last) :
// Render last item if reqd. ?>
<li class="active" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<?php if ($params->get('showLastLink', 0)) : ?>
<a itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" href="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>" itemid="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</a>
<?php else : ?>
<span itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" itemid="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php endif;
endforeach; ?>
</ul>
</div>
This one is with get('showShadowLink', 0)) to hide the menu heading without link. I would prefer this way.
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<?php
/**
* @package Joomla.Site
* @subpackage mod_breadcrumbs
*
* @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 - 2019 Open Source Matters, Inc. All rights reserved.
* @license GNU General Public License version 2 or later; see LICENSE.txt
*/
defined('_JEXEC') or die;
?>
<div aria-label="<?php echo $module->name; ?>" role="navigation">
<ul itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/BreadcrumbList" class="breadcrumb<?php echo $moduleclass_sfx; ?>">
<?php if ($params->get('showHere', 1)) : ?>
<li>
<?php echo JText::_('MOD_BREADCRUMBS_HERE'); ?> 
</li>
<?php else : ?>
<li class="active">
<span class="divider icon-location"></span>
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php
// Get rid of duplicated entries on trail including home page when using multilanguage
for ($i = 0; $i < $count; $i++)
{
if ($i === 1 && !empty($list[$i]->link) && !empty($list[$i - 1]->link) && $list[$i]->link === $list[$i - 1]->link)
{
unset($list[$i]);
}
}
// Find last and penultimate items in breadcrumbs list
end($list);
$last_item_key = key($list);
prev($list);
$penult_item_key = key($list);
// Make a link if not the last item in the breadcrumbs
$show_last = $params->get('showLast', 1);
// Generate the trail
foreach ($list as $key => $item) :
if ($key !== $last_item_key) :
// Render all but last item - along with separator ?>
<?php if (!empty($item->link)) : ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<a itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" href="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" itemid="<?php echo $item->link; ?>" class="pathway">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</a>
<?php if (($key !== $penult_item_key) || $show_last) : ?>
<span class="divider">
<?php echo $separator; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php elseif ($params->get('showShadowLink', 0)) : ?>
<li itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<span itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<?php if (($key !== $penult_item_key) || $show_last) : ?>
<span class="divider">
<?php echo $separator; ?>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php elseif ($show_last) :
// Render last item if reqd. ?>
<li class="active" itemprop="itemListElement" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/ListItem">
<?php if ($params->get('showLastLink', 0)) : ?>
<a itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" href="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>" itemid="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</a>
<?php else : ?>
<span itemprop="item" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing" itemid="<?php echo JUri::getInstance(); ?>">
<span itemprop="name">
<?php echo $item->name; ?>
</span>
</span>
<?php endif; ?>
<meta itemprop="position" content="<?php echo $key + 1; ?>">
</li>
<?php endif;
endforeach; ?>
</ul>
</div>
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
23 Sept. at 1357 hours EDT, USA
Did Google fix this?
I now get 1 error, [Missing field "item"] instead of the 120 errors I got last week.
I made no changes to the code.
I tested five sites. Four of them gave me the 1 error on Breadcrumbs and one of them had no errors.
Did Google fix this?
I now get 1 error, [Missing field "item"] instead of the 120 errors I got last week.
I made no changes to the code.
I tested five sites. Four of them gave me the 1 error on Breadcrumbs and one of them had no errors.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
I too can confirm I am not NOT SEEING ERRORS any longer.
Maybe a Google snafu?
Maybe a Google snafu?
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Well, I don't know what is going on.
I ran the crawl again on the sites. Some are once again producing hundreds of Breadcrumb Errors while the one that I tested last showed only one error (previously it had 17 errors). All test were done on the Live Sites within the last 15 minutes.
It appears that Google is making changes while I am testing. I am going to put this aside for 24 hours and then see what happens tomorrow.
In addition, looking at the chart that shows a vertical bar for each day, the number of errors for one site, http://savannahgavisitors.com/ varies by day:
Prior to 11 Sept. - No Errors
11 - No Errors
12 - 441
13 - 440
14 - 436
15 - 433
16 - 432
17 - 433
18 - 429
19 - 419
20 - 420
21 - 420
22 - 420
23 - 0 initially on the first pass and then 420 on the second pass
Makes no sense to me -- that the error count would vary by day when there were no changes made to the website.
I ran the crawl again on the sites. Some are once again producing hundreds of Breadcrumb Errors while the one that I tested last showed only one error (previously it had 17 errors). All test were done on the Live Sites within the last 15 minutes.
It appears that Google is making changes while I am testing. I am going to put this aside for 24 hours and then see what happens tomorrow.
In addition, looking at the chart that shows a vertical bar for each day, the number of errors for one site, http://savannahgavisitors.com/ varies by day:
Prior to 11 Sept. - No Errors
11 - No Errors
12 - 441
13 - 440
14 - 436
15 - 433
16 - 432
17 - 433
18 - 429
19 - 419
20 - 420
21 - 420
22 - 420
23 - 0 initially on the first pass and then 420 on the second pass
Makes no sense to me -- that the error count would vary by day when there were no changes made to the website.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
I have the same issue on [ redacted ]
Does anyone know, when the next update will be published? Thanks.
Does anyone know, when the next update will be published? Thanks.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
No. The issues still show for my test sites in Googles Structured Data Testing Tool.
It will probably not be solved by waiting for Google to accept bad code. It could be solved by testing the default.php for mod_breadcrumbs above.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Yes, Joomla 3.9.12 is rumored to be launched tomorrow. But since noone is testing the file above to get it merged into the next release, it won't be in there.Thomas-DAV wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:24 pmI have the same issue on https://www.weidener-huette.at
Does anyone know, when the next update will be published? Thanks.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
Where did you see the rumoured release for J! 3.9.12 announcement, pls. Releases happen when releases happen and not because of some arbitrary timetable.
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
The rumour is sourced from @myjoomlaguru on Twitter.
Please explain to @myjoomlaguru not to initiate rumours.
Sure I take responsibility to be one who now spreads that rumour for my own agenda to solve that breadcrumb problem reliably and quickly. Though I have no problems with that Google problem myself, I just want Joomla to be better.
Thanks
Stefan
Please explain to @myjoomlaguru not to initiate rumours.
Sure I take responsibility to be one who now spreads that rumour for my own agenda to solve that breadcrumb problem reliably and quickly. Though I have no problems with that Google problem myself, I just want Joomla to be better.
Thanks
Stefan
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Re: Fix Breadcrumbs markup ...
*ha-ha-ha* (laughing at the "Twittersphere" as the source of reliable news). Thanks, @StefanSTS, and I wouldn't trust anything from some self-professed insider about when things will happen (or not). There may be truth in such rumours (and they fuel some crazy discussions here on this forum) but as I wrote, "J! releases happen when J! releases happen—when there's a need to release a new version—and not because of some arbitrary timetable."
I'm not saying that there isn't a need to look into the b/crumbs issue (and I'm not saying that, the way things stand, GSC is hurting a lot of Joomlers) but the ground seems to be shifting behind the scenes and these are somewhat confusing times for all of us. I'm not saying that the b/crumbs issue isn't important (although, looking at GitHub, there are some people who don't think it's as important as ordinary Joomlers may feel the importance of it) but these things need to follow their course.
Yeah, I'm miffed by GSC telling website owners that the b/crumbs microdata doesn't meet their rules but it's kind of like being pestered by a mosquito buzzing around your ears, isn't it? IMO, it may be better to "quarantine" the GSC "mosquito" and just leave it to go on about its business of pestering folks. I'm guessing that the Google people may have overstepped themselves and they're reconsidering a better path. Who knows? Give it a few days.
I can wait. Cheers.
I'm not saying that there isn't a need to look into the b/crumbs issue (and I'm not saying that, the way things stand, GSC is hurting a lot of Joomlers) but the ground seems to be shifting behind the scenes and these are somewhat confusing times for all of us. I'm not saying that the b/crumbs issue isn't important (although, looking at GitHub, there are some people who don't think it's as important as ordinary Joomlers may feel the importance of it) but these things need to follow their course.
Yeah, I'm miffed by GSC telling website owners that the b/crumbs microdata doesn't meet their rules but it's kind of like being pestered by a mosquito buzzing around your ears, isn't it? IMO, it may be better to "quarantine" the GSC "mosquito" and just leave it to go on about its business of pestering folks. I'm guessing that the Google people may have overstepped themselves and they're reconsidering a better path. Who knows? Give it a few days.
I can wait. Cheers.