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User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by rich1 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:47 pm

Can someone tell me why these plugins do not work, or what the point of them is.

The Profile creator is set to make the Country and City Compulsory

The Contact Creator is set to publish to a named 'Registered' top level Category

When a new user is created they cannot:

Edit own Contact, (even though I have set options and Category to allow this).

The Contact Information or any of the Profile Creator fields do not populate the Contact.
(Country and City)

On User Edit Details none of the Profile creator fields appear to edit.

I have set Registered to Edit Own, (everywhere I can think of).

Is this some form of Alpha Installation that is still undergoing development?

Or are they designed to be an either or option.

I have created menu links for:
Your Profile
Site Users (Registered Cat, Contacts)
Edit Profile

No Edit for Contacts shows on Users Cintact
No User Profile Fields show in Edit Profile.

Oh and before anyone asks I am using the default beez2 template.
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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by rich1 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:52 am

Not surprised there have been no answers cos there ain't none!

Well this Joomla Profile creator is a complete and utter waste of time.

What I cannot get my head around is the point of it, unless it is just to let Admin see a few details when they view a user through User Manager. I am not so sure registration is going to get many people wanting to include fields they are not going to be able to edit, as none of the extra User - Profile Fields from Profile Creator will appear to edit in 'Edit User Profile'. What is the point?
When I set the:
Country and City as Required a User could not change their e-mail because Country and City were required but do not show up in the 'Edit User Profile'.

Why didn't they simply write the ACL for Users around the Contact Component.

Then the 'Contact Creator' plugin could include extra Editable Fields in the Registration process from the Contacts Component.

At the moment there is no Editable Front-End Form so that Users can Edit their Contact, (even though there are options to allow this).

The Contact Information or any of the Profile Creator fields do not populate the Contact Anyway, only the Admin User Manager, plus the already visible Contact and Details in the Front End. Again what is the point?

So for those searching for a Solution, FORGET IT, as you can see from all the replies prior to me posting this, THERE IS NO ANSWER!

And no I do not want to install Community Builder, I just thought the Joomla ACL would have built itself around Registration and populating the Contacts Component.

Simples!
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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by fatica » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm

The User Profile is not a Contact. The user profile creates the user's profile, as shown in the user's details. The contact creator creates a contact record associated with the user, it does not copy the details from the User Profile into the Contact Details.

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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by rich1 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:52 pm

I know they are two separate plugins and the User Profile is not a Contact.

The point is this:
On User Edit Details none of the Profile creator fields appear to front end user edit, (pointless).
Why create a separate table with Profile creator, when all the info/fields are already in Contacts?
Why not Use the Contacts table with Profile?
What not make Contacts editable?
Why not merge Contacts with User Data, (or visa versa)?

Simples!!!

What we have now is separate tables, when one will do.
It needs to be front end user editable.
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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by fatica » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:08 pm

It appears you've encountered what looks like a bug in how the profile plugin loads the XML file when the user is logged in.

The plugin calls loadXML to load the profile.xml which contains the additional fields. However, it has 3 paths at that point in it's internal $paths[] array and it *thinks* it should load the models/forms/profile.xml, which only has the basic fields.

This video shows you how to modify the profile.xml filename, and also how to modify the plugin to use profile_ext.xml instead, which avoids the issue in the loadXML function.

http://screencast.com/t/hCk5pVVAhwUv

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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by rich1 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:22 am

Thanks for the Tip.
I will look at the files later as I do not use anything to do with Flash or Adobe, re the link.

A little surprised that as this Post is over 5 months old that a fix has not been implemented with Updates.
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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by fatica » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:09 pm

The bug team discovered (and apparently fixed this issue). The video I posted was using 2.5.2, I'm not sure if it was fixed in the latest version:

http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... m_id=27931

What version of Joomla are you running?

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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by rich1 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:05 pm

When I initially posted this I think I was on 2.5.2
With Updates I am now using 2.5.6
After enabling profile creator it seems that it is now fixed.
I still wish that the Contacts was merged with the now Editable User Data as I cannot see the point of separate Tables.

What I did do though was to do what this link:
http://winfoes.co.uk/forum/Joomla-Core/ ... obiPro#707

Suggested which gave me the same Contacts ID as the same User ID.
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Re: User - Profile and Contact Creator

Post by marcanuy » Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:57 pm

This related discussion has shed some light on this issue


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