Joomla Logo copied by biggest shopping mall in india

[swapnil_gavai]

Dear Sir/Madam,

To introduce you about myself my name is Swapnil Gavai. I am actively involved in projects on Joomla and Joomla related websites. I reside in Kalyan which is a city located approximately 80 Km from Mumbai (INDIA)and one of the closest commercial hub to Mumbai. Kalyan is a city with lot of development activities and one of the major projects which big companies are investing and undertaking are the Shopping malls. Infact Kalyan now hosts the biggest shopping malls in India .



To my surprise I recently found out that these shopping mall known as “Metro Mall” located in Kalyan (address:metro mall,kalyan east,mumbai,INDIA, 421301)has copied the Joomla logo without mentioning any name or giving credit to the Joomla developers communities. As a responsible person I am myself very much annoyed by the copyright violations by the companies which are undertaking these projects of high magnitude. To give you the detailed information and proofs please find attached pictures for your kind perusal.



I was wondering if there are any policies which Joomla developers or users should abide by in order to copy logo like this to make profits from, or is it possible to copy the logo without any problems from the Joomla community. This mail is just to bring these and similar issues to your notice. And I would also like to know laws which mention these issues. I therefore kindly request you to send me the appropriate information in this regard.



In a span of few weeks I will contact you to confirm that you received my email and to answer any questions you may have.



Thank you for your consideration and understanding.



Yours truly,

Swapnil Gavai

[swapnil_gavai]

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[swapnil_gavai]

hi,

[swapnil_gavai]

hi

[swapnil_gavai]

hi

[swapnil_gavai]

hi

[mcsmom]

For anyone reading this, of course this is not allowed. We have firm policies on this.

Thanks for contacting us.

[yogisk]

yeah , it isnt allowed,
it is clearly copyright voilation !

[David-Andrew]

So whats OSM going to do?

[brad]

So whats OSM going to do?

What would you do?

[mandville]

i did ntoice one thing, the shops logo goes red, orange, blue and Joomla goes red, blue, green.. so its not quite a blatent copy but enopugh to be confusing. a trademark claim could be take.. wonder if there website is buily in joomla?

[David-Andrew]

So whats OSM going to do?

What would you do?

If it was in the Netherlands or the US I would start by sending them a letter from my lawyer. Mostly for fun.

Probably the mall doesn't know, they must have gotten this from a designer? So if you tell the mall they will get pissed at the "designer". Probably...

[Per Yngve Berg]

They have just rotated the Joomla logo -90 deg.

[Matrikular]

... big thx to swapnil_gavai mentioning this, and "thx" for making that much pictures.

[mcsmom]

In following up on this we got a report that there may be a similar use at another mall or store in India. If anyone sees that please PM me.

As for what we are doing, rest assured that we have excellent legal advisors.

[odino]

This truly sucks...

Not because of the Joomla! involvement but due to the involvement, another time, of an open source project.

Still lot of people, around the world, think that OS means "for free and for everything you need".

Hope this stuff will be solved without any trouble.

[revive1]

@mcsmom,

What has been done re: this ?

[mcsmom]

Honestly? I've talked to our lawyers and that's all I can really say right now.

[revive1]

Just good to hear that 'Joomla!' will protect all that has been invested in it by the developers and community. Keep up the great work.!
cheers

[Joyce Mar]

Just plain silly of the place to steal a logo rather than brand their own.

[.Joel]

With Joomla's latest Trademark policies how are you guys going with this issue above?
Has this been resolved or is it still pending?

Regards,

.Joel

[mcsmom]

We have engaged counsel in India and that firm is taking all necessary actions.
When we have more specific news that we can share I will post it.
As you probably know, with legal actions, anytime you comment publicly that becomes part of the record and makes the case more complex. As a result we are pretty limited in what we can say.


We do not have a new trademark policy. The only new thing that has happened recently is that JED has announced that older listings must come into compliance with our existing policy.

[.Joel]

We have engaged counsel in India and that firm is taking all necessary actions.
When we have more specific news that we can share I will post it.

Look forward to hearing more when the time is right. We had a clothing company in India print some clothing for us, the end result was they then continued to print the clothing and onsell it directly. It was an interesting process to say the least to stop this.

As you probably know, with legal actions, anytime you comment publicly that becomes part of the record and makes the case more complex. As a result we are pretty limited in what we can say.

This is why I didn't ask to many questions
Moreso just a progress report if it had been finalised or still continuing.

We do not have a new trademark policy. The only new thing that has happened recently is that JED has announced that older listings must come into compliance with our existing policy.

So there has been no change in policy where people now need to apply to use the term Joomla?
http://community.joomla.org/blogs/commu ... n-jed.html
Perhaps catch up on some J! news, the Community ( http://community.joomla.org/ ) link is fantastic for keeping up with J!. I now bookmark to this instead of the forum.

All the best.

Regards,

.Joel

[mcsmom]

No, no change at all except adding a simpler separate form for extension names. We just announced that we were clearing up old unresolved issues in the JED, just as we regularly do whenever we come across unregistered uses. In this case we felt it important to tell people that we are starting on a systematic project to do this so they have a chance to self-register and wouldn't feel singled out.

[coolparth]

Any Progress on the legal side ?

[.Joel]

Read three posts above yours.

Regards,

.Joel

[ChiefGoFor]

@All,

Please do not expect a "play-by-play" response from OSM on this matter. After this has been taken care of and all of the smoke clears, then we may get all the info. Until then, as Elin said, this is an ongoing matter and technically anything they write on this forum about the matter could be used against us (Joomla! Project).

I want to know all the details as much as anyone else, but that is just the way it is. We have to wait.

[chouxpastry2002]

Oh!!! lot of discussions goin on in this subject i think i have came late here!!!

I have blogged about it on my blog yesterday. I am diverting more people to this issue on this discussion towards this forum

Let s have public view on this copyright infringement case by mall.

you can also check the post at

http://www.samirkamble.com/

I am also putting a linkback to this forum in my post so that more people will have their view on it.

Sam.

[blooink]

So what is the web address of this company then? No good talking about it if we can't see it!

[chouxpastry2002]

you can check it in my website i have uploaded the photo on my blog.And shared link in previous post of yours